AMD Announces Radeon Rx 460 and 470

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  1. Noisiv

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    I'd feel better knowing that my money goes to MSI or ASUS instead to (r)etailers, but I know I'm being biased.

    Everyone does his share of the job from Nvidia's lab to... those bastards in Budapest who refused to look into my valid warranty.
    You edigital *******s - die in fire!
     
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  3. Fox2232

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    You may be fine there. But rest of the world is not getting it in nice way.
    I noticed that too here. And already pointed that out as good buy for anyone who already has one GTX 980Ti.
     
  4. Stormyandcold

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    Can't argue with GTX980Ti in Sli if someone already has one. Good time to do it tbh.

    I actually bid on an SC+ GTX980ti, which I was the only bidder for £350+£13 p&p. I decided against it and cancelled my bid to get the GTX1070 which is £419 due to lower power consumption and memory size as I may potentially Sli one day, but, had I bought the GTX980ti I would've needed a new power-supply for sli which is more expensive long-term. The guy removed the listing on the same day. In the list he said he'd bought two of them, but, only used one. The listed one was brand new.
     

  5. Fox2232

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    I am not sure if 700W is enough even for two GTX 1070s once everything is OCed.
    And even if it was, It would be too close to limit for comfort.
     
  6. Aelders

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    It's cutting it close I guess, you're looking at 450w worst case scenario for the graphics cards alone. With a 6700k overclocked that's what? An extra 140w? That leaves 100w for everything else. Doable. On x99 it could end up being problematic, but you're unlikely to be fully stressing both cards + your cpu for extended periods of time

    I can tell you immediately that psu quality is the biggest factor, I had a cx750m by corsair that couldn't handle 700w. It would just power off. Got the whole thing refunded after using it for 14 months
     
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    Yeah, definitely close, but, if I don't oc then I think I would get away with it. I did pick an 80 plus titanium rated power-supply, I hope it actually means something.
     
  8. leszy

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    If RX 480 is enough for 1440P, and both GTX 1070 and 1080 are not enough for 60fps in 4K, than we have AMD $200 1440P card against NV $449 and $699 1440P cards. I don't think it is worth paying 2 or 3 times more for NV cards.
    BTW. My R9 290 had the same results in Firestrike when I bought it, as RX 470 = 9090 points :)
     
  9. Aelders

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    Well it turns out we were all wrong. Full Polaris 10 is 2304 SPs, 36CU.

    Polaris 11 on rx460

    P10 on 480/470
     
  10. Stormyandcold

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    If the RX 480 is equivalent of GTX980/390X, then, is that enough for 1440p @ 60fps?

    We can have a guess at performance.

    Going by the latest MSI GTX1070 Gaming X review numbers for that resolution, I would say barely. Yes, if you start turning down fx. Whereas the GTX1070 is comfortable at that resolution with full-details.

    Looking forward with ever more demanding games I think you would have to drop back down to 1080P, but, this scenario would apply to GTX1070/980ti/Fury X etc as well. Just sooner.
     

  11. leszy

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    Over the past year, I've never heard of the holders of the GTX 980, had drop anything playing at 1440p. I hope, you are wrong.
     
  12. Aelders

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    Denial complained about having to drop settings in the division.1440p is a bitch actually, I can tell you ark won't run at 60fps on my card. Neither does AotS at max, crysis 3 barely lol
     
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  13. Stormyandcold

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    Here's the highest fps numbers between GTX980/390X at 1440p;

    Tomb Raider = 56fps
    Hitman = 64fps
    Total War: Warhammer = 57fps
    Ashes of the Singularity = 55fps
    Doom = 73fps
    Far Cry Primal = 52fps
    Anno 2205 = 52fps
    Fall out 4 = 63fps
    GTA V = 61fps
    The Division = 48fps
    Thief = 55fps
    The Witcher 3 = 48fps
    Battlefield Hardline = 49fps
    Alien Isolation = 97fps
    Shadow of Mordor = 82fps

    That's 6 out of 15 games playable at 1440p. Those numbers takes the best numbers from both vendors, I don't expect the real RX480 to be like this at all.

    The other 9 games should be able to run at 60fps by dropping effects/AA/AF/AO etc.

    I wouldn't say it's a good card for 1440p. Take it down to 1080p though and the RX 480 will do a lot better and it's at 1080p that this card will be most comfortable.

    Also look here; http://wcc ftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-p...s-performance/ Now, ok, it's RX470 numbers, but, these are official 1080p numbers, look...

    RX 470 1080p

    Ashes of the Singularity = 46fps
    Hitman = 60fps
    Overwatch = 121fps

    Using the stream processors estimate we get 2304/2048 = 1.125

    So, if we take the numbers we now know and + 12.5% we can see an estimate of the RX480 1080p numbers

    Ashes of the Singularity = 52fps
    Hitman = 68fps
    Overwatch = 136fps

    Looking at these new estimated numbers, I think the RX 480 will be close to R9 290 fps numbers.
     
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  14. Aelders

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    Some of those can't be right! Hitman and AotS seem off, maybe that's not max settings? The debate always lies around what your IQ target is, it's impossible to define. If you want to crank everything to the maximum then just buy the best card you can afford.

    Other people do the opposite, they settle on a budget and see how far they can push IQ, meh, it works either way. I benchmark more often than I play, the games I do play, I prefer solid 96hz over fancy shadowing and annoying post fx. 1440p is the sweetspot imo, you lower a fee settings and you're good. A 1070 is roughly performing like an oc 980ti. It'll be good for 1440p.

    I don't know how people with 4k and single card survive lol, it's 1080p and 1440p for me.

    I'm going yo go back to old gfx reviews and see how 1200p performing relative to 1600p,and compare to now. I don't expect it to have gotten any better

    The witcher 3 runs exceedingly well once you disabled hairworks, I also turn of blur and other bs, everything maxed I'm pushing well above 70 most of the time, dipping to 60 in fights. Drop a fee settings and 96hz vsync is a go.

    1070 will be a very good option once it is available. The smart thing to do is the buy the cheapest, decent, non blower Aib you can find. Middle finger to number of phases, how many power connectors. **** that.

    If you can snag a 1070 for something around 430 euros you're golden
     
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  15. Stormyandcold

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    I only used official numbers for that list, which is ofcourse based on HH's reviews. Those numbers in my list are from this review http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1070_gaming_x_review,13.html

    HH settings if you will. If you drop settings, then, ofcourse higher fps is guaranteed.
     

  16. Denial

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    Yeah, I couldn't hit 60fps at ~1400 clock on my 980 at QHD. At least not on Ultra. I didn't have to lower everything, but the majority of my settings were on high. I haven't played the game since like the 3rd of 4th week it launched though. I don't know if updates/drivers improved it since then.
     
  17. KissSh0t

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    Maybe newer drivers would help also?
     
  18. Stormyandcold

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    There are apparently features in GCN that are still yet to be exposed on PC that are available on consoles, so, higher performance with RX 480 (and GCN line) is possible in the future.
     
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    I was talking about Denial's 980... but then realized he said drivers along with updates after posting which makes my post pointless xD
     
  20. Stormyandcold

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    Yes, I realised that, but, I wanted to mention GCN side re: driver hehe.
     

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