AMD Announces Radeon Rx 460 and 470

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  1. Reddoguk

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    I see what AMD is doing here and i'll believe it even more so once the Zen range of chips is out.

    Think of a cheap 4c8t Zen with decent core speed and mix in a super cheap RX460-470 and you start to realized the PC market could be close to console prices and would be pretty good performance for those sticking with 1080p.

    I think they are going to flood the 1080p market while Nvidia is mainly targeting 1440p-upto 4k.

    It could be possible to build a decent gaming rig for less than 500 pound for the first time.

    Most people have 1080p or less and i think AMD has realized these people are not going to upgrade monitors any time soon and these cheap cards will be huge upgrades for a lot of people.

    & Good luck to them as they drive prices down to really competitive numbers and growing the overall PC market which can only be a good thing for all of us.
     
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  2. warlord

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    Nvidia-ism is strong at these forums and also unbeatable. We can see that even from forum views more than double views at NVidia's section in comparison with AMD's one. This is a thread about AMD gpu products, nvidia fanboys, go and comment about 1080/1070 reviews, stop flaming red team please, thank you.
     
  3. -Tj-

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    Interesting conclusion but considering that I can run games fine with 270X which I bought more than 2 years ago for some 200€, I have to disagree with u. Most of the time, even for fresh games (that I played at least) I had to lower/disable AO. There were only couple exclusions were I had to lower more than AO. As for AA, most of the time I inject SMAA since games usually dont have it.
    If 480 offers 390/fury performance for ~200, that will be great for its price range. AMD is probably saving bigger GPUs for HBM
     
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    What do you mean, in that video he did show 2 guru3d benchmarks with 15 up to 18fps diff on avg and that's what I saw by DF too now.. In best case scenario.
    *Vs stock TitanX or 980Ti, both get crazy when OC'ed unlike Pascal..So that gap lowers further..


    it was a good satire, how he overhype PR'd everything lol :grin:
     
  7. Stormyandcold

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    Well, yes, JHH is up his own arse. That DF video shows nice max frames difference for GTX 1080 though. Certainly, we see regular 30fps difference in the highs. Probably matters more to high HZ-rate monitor owners though.
     
  8. sammarbella

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    It's funny to see a lot of ppl speaking with confidence about the AMD 480 performance per dollar based ONLY in the flawed AOTS showcase benchmark results AMD provided us of 2 AMD 480 in CFX VS a single Nvidia 1080.

    Yep, 1080 is overpriced (1070 is clearly better bang for your buck) but AMD still compare 2 of his new shinny 480 against a single 1080 to expose it as a good "deal" using the almost always late CFX support (MONTHS in some cases) and sometimes never provided.

    Talk about confidence in your product: it's weaker but you can buy 2 (why not tri-fire?, still cheaper...), have some money left for coffee/donuts and STILL defeat a single Nvidia 1080...on AOTS :D

    The 1080 buyers know what they buy: there are 3rd parties reviews, a range of brands and HIGH prices.

    There is a logic reason for that price: it's the most powerful single GPU card available.

    The 1070 buyers also know what they buy: there are 3rd parties reviews, a range of brands and good prices in relation to the proved performance.

    The 480 future buyers ONLY know that they must believe in AMD PR and wait for June, 29 NDA lift to REALLY know what they are going to buy on...June, 29.

    To see or to believe, your choice, your money.
     
  9. 0blivious

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    Ugh. This thread.

    Really?! :3eyes:


    460/470 look like solid, low-end players. Budget gaming goodness.
     
  10. sverek

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    Glad AMD bringing new blood to lower-mid level.

    No rebrands so far, good.
     

  11. kaz050

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    The salt is real FFS,if you buy a 1080 or 1070 to later buy a 1080 ti or that new titan nvidia will pull out great for you, Amd is there with the low end cards for people who dont sit on websites and see fps benchmarks because all they want is a card that can play games on ok settings because they have a ps4 and or x1,I would have to say that 70% of the people are looking for a 1080p gaming card not a 1440p and not a 4k,and the sad thing to all this is we should be 1 and not fighting over whats best because we already lose to ps4/x1 and downgraded gfxs on games.
     
  12. Reddoguk

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    I don't think people here realize that over 50% of all PC gamers still are on monitors below 1080p.

    OVER 50%

    Surely people don't think everyone has a beast of a machine. They should just go look at the numbers before coming here talking out of their arses.

    Do you think those 50%+ can afford any nVidia card right now? No i doubt it but AMD is giving those people great budget cards for very little money. While they game still @1280x1024(4%) or the more popular 1366 x 768(25%).

    If you add up all monitors under 1080p then it's around 50% and i doubt they would want/need a 1070 do you.

    And before some smart arse mentions second monitors these stats are for Primary monitors only.
     
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  13. sunnyp_343

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    you are wrong buddy.Like i said in my Thread cheaper strategy is not the best solution always.Some of us have 1440p 100+Hz monitor and its next thing for many of us.so here any 200$ card will fail here.

    Some years ago for gamers big thing was can it run game 1080p max setting?Can it run crysis max setting? etc etc.But now graphic card are so powerful and bad ass so now big thing is can i run games 1440p or 4k max setting?

    i will tell you myself if i have less money for powerful card 600$-700$.I wont compromise for 200$.i will wait then i buy 700$ powerful card so it can run next 4 years easy in max setting everything.
     
  14. Stukov

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    This thread reminds me why I haven't been around for years.
     
  15. EspHack

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    I don't get it, why isn't AMD showing perf numbers already? they are just promising more and more crap and telling is this is best bang for the buck, how? I don't see anything concrete telling me that, just chitchat, it seems NVidia will release a 1060 at about that price and show numbers before them, if they are even the same perf as AMD's offer that'd be enough to not care about what AMD says from that point on
     

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    What is wrong with you? If you and I can afford top notch GPU, that doesnt mean everyone else can. They will be happy with that 480. And 45fps on 1080p is great for LOW END GPU for people that can't afford +1k PCs. To get more FPS you either lower resolution, which most of them will. People these days, fanboys or stupid or both.
     
  17. Fox2232

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    Steam stats on this say it all. There are very few gamers with screens over 1080p. Or expensive graphics cards.

    While low end GPUs are something people here do not like to buy, they should realize that AMD is doing them favor.
    If AMD improve performance / $, and minimal performance available from discrete GPU, then it will affect High end gaming market too.

    @angry mob:
    And I think it is funny when seasoned gurus run around like rabid dogs while Newbies bring some sense.
     
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    Nividia released high end cards, AMD about to release low end cards. Naturally in an enthusiast forum that likes to compare upper tier products, the thrill is gone. Regardless of AMDs business strategy, which may be good, its frustrating to enthusiasts to say the least.
     
  19. AlmondMan

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    But, most people play F2P games like LoL or older titles like CS/CS:GO, Diablo, and are happy to play them on their laptops with integrated GPU and old systems. F2P games are generally made to hit very low performance systems and play well on them. AMD targeting that segment is fine.
    If they can provide a decent level of performance there, then these people can start playing games other than F2P ones and enjoy that. Even if at lowest possible settings to get playable framerates then that's better than having no frames at all.

    I also like how enthusiast has come to mean "he who is willing to spend more money on a GPU" rather than someone enthusiastic about hardware... Tweaking a system to get the most possible performance out of it is enthusiast territory, and it doesn't matter if that system has a 100$ GPU in it or a 700$ GPU in it...
     
  20. RooiKreef

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    What's up with everyone taking out the consoles??? Clearly you guys haven't seen what Phill Spencer said at E3 yesterday... Project Scorpio will have 6 TFLOPs of gpu power and 320GB/s memory bandwidth. Sounds like Microsoft is done with taking beatings from all sides about underpowered performance.
     

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