AMD Announces 7th Generation Desktop AMD A-Series processors and AM4

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Kohlendioxidus Maha Guru

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    coool, Now I want benchies!:banana:
     
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    Loophole35 Ancient Guru

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    Boss, will these APU's/AM4 boards have HDMI2.0a/b or still 1.4?
     
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    Only 12 PCIe lanes??? :3eyes:

    So you technically can't run any modern high end GPU at 16x mode then....
     

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    The lack of PCI-E lanes isn't really an issue, the target is basic work station machines and HTPC. It's not as it you're going to plug in the upcoming AMD Vega or NVidia Volta into it. To be fair I have heard of people doing the equivalent with existing APUs' and Pentiums', but as I said, to be fair, they're idiots :D (if they're doing it seriously that is).
     
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    That's not really an issue to be honest. The max that these lanes would be used would be a 4x PCIe SSD and a 8x GPU. This is GEN3, so bandwidth shouldn't be an issue at all. More impressive is that the Southbridge is completely integrated, I wonder if Zen does the same. If it does, it will be the first performance-minded mainstream CPU to do so, and it will probably cut down I/O latencies tremendously.
     
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    Wow, not too shabby! Looks like a great choice for HTPC and micro systems.
     
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    We are yet to see how much will APU graphics benefit from DDR4 memory.
     
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    Annnnnd now we just need someone to come up with a benchmark for madVR, and use it on each and every one of these …
     
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    Bout time they came out with something! I wonder how they perform I read up-to 54% faster then previous gen Apu's.Price is also a big factor if they wanna be able to sell alot of them.I will be keeping my eye on this my kid needs a new build.
     

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    couldn't they put a chip on the mobo to handle extra pcie lanes like on dual gpu cards ?

    lookin forwards to seeing what these run like amd really seem to have something special
    coming could even push intel too
     
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    That only raises latencies, since the chip itself will be limited in its communication with the CPU. For systems like that 12 lanes are actually fine. I can't imagine anyone sane going for a dual GPU setup with an APU.
     
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    It seems to be a bit of a taste for what's coming with zen Ill sit back wait and see how amds new approach works it's been a long time comin
     
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    I find the integrated southbridge particularly intriguing. I'm not sure that Zen will have that though.
     
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    Can't see a reason why not, if it does reduce system latency it would be silly to bring a new idea like that just to drop it on the next round, they are moving towards a new way of thinking with hsa I wish em luck
     

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    Are these E type of processors with 35W realy for desktop PCs? Looks more like for Laptops.
     
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    considering 16x PCI-Express is 8x PCI-Express 2.0, and does have a performance difference, but PCI-Express 2.0 16x is PCI-Express 3.0 8x, and currently does not show a difference between PCI-Express 2.0 16x and 3.0 16x, i'm not sure how you think 12x would be a problem, since it's inbetween those, and they don't have a real-world performance difference (yet)



    I'm fairly certain that's already how it is, though i could be wrong?

    According to the slide it looks like the CPU itself as 8x PCI-Express 3.0 lanes, while chipset A320 4x PCI-Express 3.0 lanes bringing it to a total of 12 PCI-Express 3.0 lanes, and chipset B350 has 6x PCI-Express 3.0 lanes bringing it to a total of 14 PCI-Express 3.0 lanes
     
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    Last slide says PCI-E GEN2 for the chipset.
     
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    35w is still a little high for a laptop, it would be one thing if these were high performance gaming systems but they won't be.
     
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    GPU performance of the 9800 should be about the performance of the r7 250x, just a bit less on higher resolutions and filtering because of ddr4 versus gddr5.
     

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