AMD A10 5800K Trinity APU preview - Guru3D.com

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    In this preview we talk about what AMD is about to release with the AMD A10 5800K APU processor. Based on Trinity APU architecture and building on the strengths of both the Llano and Bulldozer design,...

    AMD A10 5800K Trinity APU preview
     
  2. thatguy91

    thatguy91 Ancient Guru

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    One of the pages is incorrectly labelled:
    The A75 chipset - Socket FM2 - APU SKU overview
    :)
     
  3. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Yeah I noticed that, already fixed ;)
     
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    Ven0m Ancient Guru

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    Thank you for this preview.

    Unfortunately, it appears my 3.5-year old i7 920 offers more muscle, which is somehow disappointing. AMD really has to do something or just focus on slower CPUs.
     

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    Power consumption seems kinda high but that IGP performance is top notch. I sense an itx build coming along :p
     
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    its a crap... the ipc is still to low and the clocks have to compensate with the drawback of power consumption... its game over for amd this time, only the gpu department of amd will survive if nvidia lets them because if an 7970 with 4.3b transistors runs for its money with the supposed to be mid-range 680 with 3.4b transistors i dont want to think about an equal specked nvidia counter-part.

    this is an indication that the piledriver fx8350 will only compete at best with old school sandy and still lagging in most cases behind :bang:
     
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    I doubt it will compete with sb, they still have to beat x58 yet and p2
     
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    This isn't designed as top end performance (like your i7 was) it offers CPU/GPU for less than $140 (plus mobos pretty cheap as well). Your comment is like saying the new Hybrid is slower than your old Corvette.

    Power consumption is a little high, (20 watts higher than Llano) on load, but will have to wait and see how the CPU performance works next week.
     
  9. PhazeDelta1

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    These APUs were never meant for gaming.
     
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    Hmm... Hmm... I'm looking to upgrade our AMD Athlon 64 X2 7750 Black Edition based HTPC soon. Maybe this would be a good option?
     

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    Stukov Ancient Guru

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    Probably, the Mobo has lots of goodies and the temps seem to be good. The only issue may be slightly higher load power consumption but I doubt a HTPC is going to stress it that much and will be in idle most of the (which it does do well at).

    Edit, here is a look at the HTPC qualities of the Trinity Desktop, power actually looks pretty good. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6335/amds-trinity-an-htpc-perspective
     
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    Since when is a(n) entry level/budget processor supposed to outperform a high-end processor? By that line of thinking, an IB based Pentium should outperform your i7-920....which we both know won't happen for at least several more generations....
     
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    You could buy a i7 920 cpu used right now cheaper and stomp this cpu amd has turned into a joke
     
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    That is incorrect.
    Trinity has Cayman VLIW-4 SPUs.

    GCN is a SIMD based architecture and wasn't present in the HD 6000 series.
     
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    I will have to agree with you on this, a used i7 920 right now is around 150-160$ so AMD is 3 years behind.. bloody hell
     

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    Is AMD only going to make APU's from now on? It's probably a stupid question..

    Sorry I haven't been keeping up to date.
     
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    We are waiting for Piledriver the follow up to Bulldozer.
     
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    Trinity APU preview

    Not if Techreport has anything to say:


    Yes, AMD and other firms have done limited "preview" releases in the past, where select publications are allowed to publish a few pictures and perhaps a handful of benchmark numbers ahead of time.
    There is some slight precedent there.

    But none of that changes the fact that this plan is absolutely, bat-guano crazy. It crosses a line that should not be crossed.

    Companies like AMD don't get to decide what gets highlighted in reviews and what doesn't.
    Using the review press's general willingness to agree on one thing—timing—to get additional control may seem clever, but we've thought it over, and no.

    We'll keep our independence, thanks.
     
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    Couple problems with that though.

    1. Power consumption is a big key here a lot of times for something like this.
    2. You probably won't be able to find a brand new in box 920 along side a mobo for it not used, and if you do the prices are horrible most of the time. Where as with this, new in box and all. Not having to worry if someone who overlocked it pushed it too far or damaged it.
    3. 4 cores with 2 threads per core versus 2 "physical" cores with 2 "modules" inside, not too fair of a comparison...

    Kind of unfair to compare a high end cpu to a mid range cpu too. The 920 may offer better cpu performance, but tdp and added bonus of the better integrated graphics is the key with the APU's from AMD. I just hope that these APU's have decent overclocking room and performance with overclocking, if it does that'll be the key for it.
     

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