Amd 4800 ?

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  1. fourbanks

    fourbanks Member

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    Hi
    i wonder if anyone can help with the upgrade of my old graphic card as above. it has a 6 pin power supply lead that i have had to take off to get the card out. i have tried to replace the old 1GB card with a 2GB card but that doesn't work for some odd reason.

    my spec as follows

    Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 920 @ 2.67GHz
    Bloomfield 45nm Technology
    RAM
    12.0GB Triple-Channel DDR3 (8-8-8-19)
    Motherboard
    Acer FX58M (CPU 1)
    Graphics
    SMBX2331 (1920x1080@60Hz)
    2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GT 710 (ASUStek Computer Inc)

    power supply 400/1000 watts

    the new above card runs the computer very slow and like most new cards has no 6 pin connector.
    my thinking is my motherboard does not have the power to run a modern card thus the new card must be like the old card and have a 6 pin connector for the power?

    any help would be much appreciated on what 2GB new card has a 6 pin connector that i could try

    many thanks
     
  2. Passus

    Passus Maha Guru

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    That card is a very very low end model and is supposed to be just used in browing, videos web presentations ect

    no 3D cause its just not powerful enough and your old 4800 had more power

    a used gtx 750 can be had for around 40 - 50 pounds on ebay or facebook marketplace ect
     
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  3. fourbanks

    fourbanks Member

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    and your choice of the new card in going forward with a 6 pin connector is?
    thanks :)
     
  4. Passus

    Passus Maha Guru

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    the 750 doesnt need a 6 or 8 pin connector

    what do you do mostly with your PC?
     

  5. fourbanks

    fourbanks Member

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    just to use a 4 k monitor and the odd game. the reason the question is that I don't know what power is going to the motherboard and was assuming the 6 Pin connector was to be used to compensate for a low powered motherboard?
    if you can confirm this motherboard can take the card you surgest then will get one and thanks

    ps i am also wanting a very quiet card like my old one if possible?
    would a 2GB be better as my old card is 1GB and the one you recommend is 1GB?
     
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  6. fourbanks

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  7. Passus

    Passus Maha Guru

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    the 4gb will be best for 4k although it wont play well at 4k with new games

    as long as your mobo has a pci-e slot it should work fine
     
  8. The_Amazing_X

    The_Amazing_X Master Guru

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    gtx 1050ti e the same performance as a HD7870 ghz.

    Just look for a cheap rx470, 570, 480 or 580.

    This will do it.
     
  9. fourbanks

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    i wasn't looking for anything cheap just compatible with the original card AMD 4800 which has run perfectly the past 12 years the only reason for a change is that the driver is no longer available for windows 10 and the Microsoft driver won't scale the monitor hence a gap of 2 inches all around on a 24-inch monitor what about this card?

    Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 1050 GDDR5 2GB PCI-E, Black
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MG1MP73/ref=psdc_430523031_t2_B01MEHGRMS
     
  10. Yxskaft

    Yxskaft Maha Guru

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    There is official Windows 10 support for the HD 4800 and it's provided by Windows update. There's no official standalone driver package to download for it.

    That GTX 1050 would work, although it's slow considered low level if you want to play new games and a definite no-go for 4k gaming
     

  11. fourbanks

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    thanks
    Key Specifications
    Chipset GeForce GTX 1050
    Edition D5
    Manufacturing process 16 nm
    Microarchitecture Pascal
    Cores & Clocks
    Cores 640
    Core Clock 1354 (1379 in OC Mode) MHz
    Boost Clock 1455 (1493 in OC Mode) MHz
    Video Memory (VRAM)
    Memory Size 2GB
    Memory Type GDDR5
    Memory Clock 7008 MHz
    Memory Bus 128 Bit
    Cooling
    Cooling Solution Single Fan (1)
    Cooler Design GIGABYTE Custom 90mm Cooler
    Included/Fitted Backplate No
    I/O & Connectivity
    Interface PCIe 3.0 (x16)
    Connectivity
    • 1 x DisplayPort 1.4
    • 1 x DVI-D DL
    • 1 x HDMI 2.0b
    Visuals
    GeForce VR Ready No
    Multi-Way Graphics Support Not Supported
    Microsoft DirectX Support 12 API with Feature Level 12.1
    HDCP Ready Yes
    Max. Concurrent Displays 3 Displays
    Maximum Digital Resolution 7680x4320 @ 60Hz (8K UHD)
    Maximum Analog (VGA) Resolution N/A
    Ray-Tracing
    Real-Time Ray Tracing No
    NVIDIA RT Cores
    NVIDIA Tensor Cores
    RTX-OPS
    Rays Cast
    Power & Thermals
    Graphics Card Power Connectors
    Graphics Card TDP/Power 75W
    Minimum Recommended PSU 300 W
    Maximum GPU Temperature 97 °C
    Physical
    Width Dual Slot
    Low Profile Compatible No
    Low Profile Support N/A
    Dimensions 113 x 30 x 172 mm
    Package Type Retail
    Additional Information
    Scan Code LN75992
    Model Number GV-N1050D5-2GD
    GTIN 4719331339302
     
  12. fourbanks

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    so just to recap the card is to be used with a 4 k monitor and to play a few games with this spec only
    SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
    Windows
    Mac OS X


    • MINIMUM:
      • OS: Windows XP
      • Processor: Dual Core 2.0 ghz or better.
      • Memory: 2 GB RAM
      • Graphics: Graphics card supporting DirectX 9.0c and Shader Model 3.0
      • DirectX: Version 9.0c
      • Storage: 20 GB available space
      • Sound Card: Direct Sound capable card.

    • RECOMMENDED:
      • OS: Windows 7
      • Processor: Dual Core 2.0 ghz or better.
      • Memory: 4 GB RAM
      • Graphics: nVidia GeForce GTX 560 or higher. ATI HD 6950 or higher.
      • DirectX: Version 11
      • Storage: 20 GB available space
      • Sound Card: Direct Sound capable card.
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/238260/Pinball_Arcade/
     
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  13. The_Amazing_X

    The_Amazing_X Master Guru

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    Any cheap rx470 will be milles better then a 1050ti.

    Its you money
     
  14. fourbanks

    fourbanks Member

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    it's ok I have found the exact match game card that should be the equivalent to the original card
    Amd 4800
    with a 6 pin connector? and the 300-watt power needed?


    GeForce® GTX 1650 WINDFORCE
    • Graphics Processing
      GeForce® GTX 1650
    • Core Clock
      1785 MHz (Reference Card: 1665 MHz)
    • CUDA® Cores
      896
    • Memory Clock
      8002 MHz
    • Memory Size
      4 GB
    • Memory Type
      GDDR5
    • Memory Bus
      128 bit
    • Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec)
      128 GB/s
    • Card Bus
      PCI-E 3.0 x 16
    • Digital max resolution
      7680x4320@60Hz
    • Multi-view
      4
    • Card size
      L=229 W=119 H=36 mm
    • PCB Form
      ATX
    • DirectX
      12
    • OpenGL
      4.6
    • Recommended PSU
      300W
    • Power Connectors
      6 Pin*1
    • Output
      DisplayPort 1.4 *1
      HDMI 2.0b *3
    • SLI Support
      No
    it's on offer in the uk so at around £130 i think its good value?
     
  15. fourbanks

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    thanks, guys for your invaluable input and will let you know on how this card performs in due course
     

  16. The_Amazing_X

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    Please dont get that card. its an overpriced gpu. Any of the above is better.
     
  17. fourbanks

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    you name a new card than with the 6 pin connector? I'm only going on what I'm replacing the
    Amd 4800

    and with 2 failed cards already ( computer slowdown) that I've installed the ASUS NVIDIA Gt 710 2 GB Passive Cooling Pci-E Graphics Card, Black
    and

    MSI RADEON R7 240 2GD3 64B LP Graphics Card 2GB DDR3, 600 MHz, Low Profile Design, AMD Oland PRO GPU, VGA, HDMI, DVI-D, HTPC, Single Fan Cooling System

    and with my local so-called computer card experts coming up with nothing I must play safe and if the card GeForce® GTX 1650 WINDFORCE at least works then to me that's a success even if the card isn't perfect?
    I'm just after a reliable card and I'll have to settle for that if possible with the GTX 1650
    of course, if you wish to advise me further on a NEW card to look at then please do
    thanks
     
  18. sykozis

    sykozis Ancient Guru

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    There is nothing wrong with a GTX1650 as long as you understand that it's not going to provide the best gaming experience at 4K.

    The GT710 and R7 240 are both downgrades from an HD4800 series card. Neither were intended to drive a 4K display, nor was an HD4800 series card.
     
  19. bobblunderton

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    The 1650/1650 Super is fine, and you can keep it for your next computer, too, when your current machine decides it no longer loves life and eventually dies. The 1650 super is as much as 50% better than the regular 1650, so I would very much recommend you skip the regular 1650.
    However, that being said, the following cards will work okay.
    750Ti 2gb
    Radeon 7850 2gb (used!)
    Radeon Rx 460
    Nvidia 1050 2gb
    Nvidia GTX 1050 Ti 4gb
    Nvidia 1650 4gb
    AMD Radeon RX 470 4gb (make sure this only uses a 6-pin, if it needs more, do not buy!).
    AMD Radeon 5500 series (XT or non-XT, doesn't matter) 4gb card. Make sure only needs a 6-pin power connector.
    Nvidia 1650 Super 4gb
    At somewhere around the 1050Ti to 1650 your machine will be bottlenecked by the processor and not by the video card anymore.

    I would consider buying a Ryzen 2200G / 2400G / 3200G / 3400G based system and using that in-stead. The savings in power alone would be the difference between buying a full system replacement, and using your current PC with a new video board over the next several years.
    That said if you love your old computer, just replace the video board.
    If it were me and it ate 2 video cards already I would buy a power supply replacement for it, as while the one in there isn't trash, they aren't known for being the world's best when it comes to built-in surge surpression and over-current / over-power etc protection features built in. This however complicates things some, so consider all your options here. If buying a power supply, do read reviews and know it can be a daunting task (But all plugs are keyed and normally can only go in one way unless you use a hammer - don't use a hammer).

    I wish you the best of luck. If the video board you purchase does not boot on your PC (these things happen), choose another model or another manufacturer and model.

    Edit: you will not have 4k gaming experience success on a video board with one 6-pin power connector, even the majority of the folks with beefy supplies don't game at 4k regularly unless they have a 300~400$ price graphics card or better. You won't do 4k gaming that well on an older, more dated machine without a lot of hitching. 1080p will be fine on that machine with a half-decent card though, I'd consider the 1650 Super or a 1050Ti 4gb as good models to start from for 1080p high detail. To game at 4k you will likely want a newer machine, as while the slower processor might not be the limit, 4k requires a LOT of graphics VRAM for the frame buffer and for the increased model and texture detail (models are loaded in by the amount of pixel fill, more pixels from higher resolution = more models loaded and rendering at high detail = more VRAM and GPU horsepower and in-turn more CPU to do the draw calls for rendering them).
    If someone has corrections to this, please issue them in a constructive manner for the benefit of the original poster.
     
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  20. fourbanks

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    thank you I will go with the GTX1650 and get back to you and fingers crossed :)
     
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