AMD 4200+ to AMD 6400+

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by ALilHope, Dec 27, 2007.

  1. ALilHope

    ALilHope Member

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    How much of an improvement would I see gaming-wise?
     
  2. dcgerard

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    It 100% depends on the game really. If you play CS:S you won't see any. If you play Crysis you can see up to 2X the performance.
     
  3. squirrel007

    squirrel007 Master Guru

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    what kind of fps are getting in Crysis with that 6400, dcgerard? I am thinking of upgrading but, I can't decide if I want to get that 6400 or not.
     
  4. king-dubs

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    Actually, it's the other way around. CS:S is more CPU bottlenecked, while Crysis is 99.9% GPU bottlenecked.
     

  5. ghostkilla17

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    actually had a 3800 x2 paired up with a 8800 gts 320 in crysis and i got ok frame rate, but i recently bought a 6000 x2 and tried it with the 8800 gts ohh ym freaking god what a difference about 12 to 15 fps and its smooth like butter.
     
  6. squirrel007

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    I don't think that is the case

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  7. dcgerard

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    Well I already had my 8800GTS 640 meg before I upgraded, and my old CPU was a AMD 4000 single core, with 2 gigs of DDR 400. CS:S was well above 100 fps already with that set up. I think I was getting 110ish fps and that was with 16x AF and x2 AA and all settings maxed. I swapped out my CPU motherboard and memory to what I have now on the left of my post and got 0 improvement in CS:S. It stayed right at the 110ish fps mark.

    Crysis on the other hand jumped to almost double the FPS. I think my CPU benchmark went from 18fps up to 35fps. GPU test went from 21 to 42 FPS. My Crysis game setting where almost everything at high in DX9. Only things set to medium where Object quality and Post processing.

    All games I run are in 1600x1024
     
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  8. Sukovsky

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    I quite doubt that. Such a huge increase just from a processor
     
  9. fenixrisingxl

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    Okay, fellas, here's the stupid question of the day. Bear with me, as I'm really unsure of the answer. If I wanted to, I couldn't just do a cpu swapout exactly like the subject of this thread suggests, can I?
    I purchased an Acer computer back in January of this year, running an AMD 64 X2 4200+ chip, and was looking to upgrade it. Only problem is I don't know how far of an upgrade I can go, as Acer's site doesn't detail the cpu's upgrade path. I was looking at the AMD 64 X2 6400+, but I'm not sure if I can just do the swapout. I'm pretty sure I have to switch out motherboards as well to utilize it.
    Is it possible for me to do a swapout, with just the cpu and new power supply? (I've only got a 400W one right now, and I'm currently running an 8800 GT OC card with it, but am sure I'll have to upgrade with the cpu).
    Am I correct in assuming I'll also have to switch out the motherboard?
    Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
    Thank you for your time.
     
  10. squirrel007

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    your specs say that you are using DDR so I am guessing that you have a socket 939 motherboard. If that is the case, then you would have to upgrade your motherboard to a socket AM2 or AM2+ along with DDR2 ram.
     

  11. fenixrisingxl

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    Thanks for the reply.
    Actually, it's PNY DDR2 memory (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7997475&type=product&id=1155071451493). I remember buying 4 1-GB sticks about four months ago. I'll definitely have to update that profile.
    I'm at work now, but isn't there a program I can run on my computer when I get home that'll feed me all of the necessary information (including motherboard socket type)?
    I can't remember the name of it.
     
  12. dcgerard

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    It's not just from a processor. If you would have actually read my post, you would have seen that my memory is 2x faster now also. Before I swapped out the parts I ran benchmarks and those where my results.

    Oh and on top of that my 3dmark 05 went from 11677 up to 15609. My 3dmark 06 went from 6225 up to 9500.
     
  13. fenixrisingxl

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    Okay, using CPU-Z, I was able to update my computers profile to the left. My processor is listed as an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+, Code Name: Windsor, Package: Socket AM2 (940).
    Am I correct in assuming I can now upgrade to the 6400+ listed here on Newegg, or am I overlooking something else? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103228

    Thanks in advance for any advice offered.
     
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    6400+ is an socket AM2 processor. Should be no problem, just make sure you have a nice power supply. I upgraded my CPU mobo and ram and had to move up to a higher wattage.
     
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    Yeah, I pretty much figured there was no way the 6400+ would be able to coexist with an 8800GT OC at 400 watts.
    Damn hidden costs. Lol.
    Thanks for the input.
     

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    Yeah 400 won't cover it. I moved up to 700 watts but that may be overkill. Oh well, this PSU is sli ready if I should decide to make that move.
     
  17. fenixrisingxl

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    I won't be looking to do any SLI configs as this motherboard is limited to just the one PCI-E slot. I was looking to just upgrade the processor for now, and maybe get a new computer this time next year, maybe a year and a half from now.

    With that 700-Watt power supply can I assume your computer doubles as your room's heater? Lol.

    Thanks again for the input.
     
  18. rogue71

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    you'll have to make sure the bios will support it. you'll have to upgrade your power supply IF your board can take it. you''l also have to get a much better cpu cooler.
     
  19. bluemoogle

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    i took back the phenom 9500 i got for Christmas. it was craptacular for gaming. replaced my 4600+ instead for the 6400+ black edition. 3dmark06 scores running 1440*900 res:

    4600+ 9900
    9500 6800
    6400+ 12200

    i love my processor.
     
  20. Markgpl

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    Wich cooler are you running with 6400+?
    I bought a 5200+ (windsor) and the cooler was that horrible solid block of aluminum foxconn made, the same that my 3800+ had.
    I like amd, but they better do not include heatsink that cannot cope well with default clocks without sounding like agonizing creature.
     

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