AMD 2nd Generation Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX and 2920X Launch date

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    48 threads for $1,299 US not bad ...
     
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    I figure the 2970WX will have proportionately better performance than the 2990WX, since the Infinity Fabric doesn't have to work as hard to feed all those extra cores.
     
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    tunejunky Maha Guru

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    these are the killer cpus...especially the 2920x @ $650 same price as the old six core Intel.

    so many "content creators" will realize that they can have HEDT platform in reach... the fact that they can have a threadripper cpu and motherboard at the price of the 2950x and that they could spend the savings on lighting (lol)

    this is what butt-hurts Intel, not commentary.
    they have nothing to offer that isn't just ridiculous, over-heated, and antiquated.
     
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    has something to offer ... High Prices
     
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    The new dynamic local mode sounds interesting. Those who want to game with the WX chips won't need to reboot or disable cores for optimal performance, and I assume it will also help with productivity apps which require direct memory access. I wonder if this can be expanded further to eliminate game mode altogether? (make sure most/all threads for a game stay within a Zeppelin)
     
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    Gonna throw some numbers here just for fun.

    12C/24T Intel 7920X = $1199(~$1135/€1030*)
    14C/28T Intel 7940X = $1399 (~$1245/€1165*)
    16C/32T Intel 7960X = $1699 (~$1399/€1412*)
    18C/36T Intel 7980XE = $1999/€1998*


    12C/24T AMD 2920X 12/24T = $649
    16C/32T AMD 2950X 16C/32T = $899 (~$850/€911*)
    24C/48T AMD 2970WX 24C/48T = $1299
    32C/64T AMD 2990WX 32C/64T = $1799 (~$1750/€1828*)

    *current prices US newegg/amazon and rep. EU e-shops
     
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    Is it a typo? .. A 2950X 16 core has top clock of 4.4 and 2920X 12 core is 4.3 but has 4 less cores I would think it would be better or same at least as it is with the top 2 threadripper processors 2990WX & 2970WX both 4.2.
     
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    2920X price ($650) is pretty high against 1920X ($400; sometimes even less) for the same core count, higher RAM and turbo, and a bit more optimization.
    Is the 2920X really worth 50% more than the 1920X? Are Ryzen optimizations really that high against the previous Ryzen version?
     
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    Thats not the msrp of the 1920x, so i'm not quite sure what point you are trying to make is.

    If you yourself are trying to decide, then if you can find the 1920x for that much under msrp, then great, buy it. AMD is not at fault for people not following msrp.
     
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    Actually AMD massively cut the prices of the first gen Threadrippers upon the release of the 2nd gen, to get rid of the old stocks. So, the cheap price of the 1920X heffeque is talking about is indeed around the lowered recommended price, but well below the original price the CPU was selling for when it was new.
     
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    As of the end of August, 1st Gen TR are much cheaper.
    $399 is the current SRP for the 1920X.
    $299 for the 1900X.
     
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    I can not wait for a complete review of these bad boys on here. I have been still waiting for thing to get ironed out (for some time now) on both sides in order to build a new system.

    Come on Hilbert with them reviews......!! Can not happen soon enough!
     
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    Again, it's not the MSRP.

    At worst, the MSRP is $499, but likely is $599 now (i don't know if it's known, other then for $799, since they likely are not manufacturing the 1920x anymore)

    And again, the entire point is you can't compare MSRP of a brand new processor to non-MSRP prices of previous generations.

    It's the same apples and oranges comparisons people make of the new Athlon processors price vs a price of a 2000 series intel processor. It's not comparable.

    Again, also, like i said in the original post, if the question is simply is it worth it to buy a 1920x if you can find that much of a discount, obviously the answer is yes, but the question was about AMDs current MSRP of a new processor vs AMDs previous non-MSRP processor prices. Not comparable, AMDs previous-generation non-MSRP prices have no affect on their current generations MSRP prices. And if AMDs last-gen non-MSRP prices are having an affect on current-gen MSRP prices, that'll be up to the individual sellers to break away from MSRP prices, which likely won't happen for many reasons.
     

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    mean while Intel prices...
     
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    I guess I'm the only one who does think that's bad. Comes out to $54.17 per core.
     
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    Not sure why you insist on saying that $399 isn't the MSRP price for the 1920X.
     
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    As Aura89, don't forget that the 1920X started on 800$, so that's 150$ under the 1920X stating price.
     
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    Please show me where it is? The MSRP, unless changed which i have seen no information about, for the 1920x is $799. AMD giving discounts to sell through does not denote an MSRP change, since that is simply to incentivize manufacturers to pick up more stock. If the retailers decide to also lower the price to also incentivize customers to buy it since they are getting it cheaper, then great! But that doesn't change the MSRP.

    Plus, to answer your direct question of $399, where has it for $399 that's not some random on ebay? Newegg has it for $552 and up(through 3rd party since apparently newegg themselves have no more stock), Amazon has it for $499 directly through them, microcenter doesn't even have them anymore, Fry's electronics has them on CLEARANCE for $499, and interestingly enough this is the first website to show the MSRP price difference, and they state $699 original price, which is the closest thing i have seen yet to an AMD MSRP price change on the 1920x

    [​IMG]

    MSRP prices don't just magically change because the manufacturer gives a seller a discount to buy more, MSRPs are not based off the manufacturer sell price. If that was the case, you couldn't have products on the shelf that have 80% markup from the manufacturer price vs 1% markup, and yes, that's how retail works, for instance on a $399 microsoft game console, the store usually makes $5 from that sell, if not less, whereas on a $399 desk, they might make $160 on. Both have an MSRP of $399, and both have massively different prices, and either company giving discounts to the sellers to buy more to sell, will not change those MSRPs.

    The original question that was asked could be asked about cars as well: Why buy a 2019 vehicle for $30k when you can have basically the same 2018 vehicle for clearanced/blowout/etc. for $22k, in which the answer to that is the same as about: Do whats best for yourself, but you can't compare prices of brand new, MSRP vehicles against non-MSRP previous generation vehicles.

    MSRPs are also not (generally) binding, meaning the seller can sell at whatever they want, which is why you can NOT compare the non-MSRP prices of the 1920x vs the MSRP prices of the 2920x, it's not comparable. If you could i guess i'll just go on ebay and create a listing for the 2920x for $299 and come onto these forums and go "Hey look guys! the 2920x is $200 LESS then the 1920x CLEARANCE price! Wow! Amazing! How can AMD do such wonders!" while completely disregarding MSRP and not understanding how anyone can sell anything for however much they want.

    I don't understand why this is, apparently, a difficult concept. This is reality, guys, we all live in it.
     

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