AMD’s Lisa Su Hints that high-end 7nm NAVI GPUs are on the way

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  1. Noisiv

    Noisiv Ancient Guru

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    I am sure it's coming.

    Problem is the time gap between Lisa's IT'S COMING and the card being available in practical terms is as big or as small as your faith in AMD's execution.

    Take 5700/XT:
    From my standpoint, having zero desire to mess around fixing their silly cooler and silly no ZERO RPM BIOS - a month after the official release - 5700/XT IS still COMING.

    Not to mention that with each day "wait for 7nm Nvidia" makes more sense


    AMD has iChill. Nvidia doesn't. In my mind, being silence and power consumption nutjob, that's a huge plus for AMD. I had to *&$# around with Nvidia power states to keep it from boosting and eating power when it doesn't have to. You know, like in workloads that require more GPU omph than provided by 2D frequencies , but nowhere near 3D. Some game play it smart - some boost like crazy without ever needing the frequencies they trigger

    iChill = ++ AMD
    Nvidia needs to steal it PERIOD :D

    Other than that... AMD's overlay is a like playing a lottery. Nvidia has full blown software stack that actually feels and performs like a finished product.

    Here comes surprise: RE:FreeSync - it works better with Turing than it ever did with my 290.
    With AMD, when your FPS blows past the upper refresh limit, except for handful of games (like WTF is with that, more lottery) - you're tearing. If you fps limit, you're tearing.
    With Nvidia+FreeSync monitor you have three (3) options to prevent tearing with VESA Adaptive Sync still working: Ingame fps limiting, RTSS or NV inspector.
     
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    And who told you high end radeon cards won't have ray tracing capabilities? If you have any first hand leak, would be nice to know.
     
  3. sykozis

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    Seeing as how few games presently support ray tracing, and how long it's going to be before ray tracing is a major "feature" of every game.... Why should anyone prioritize it at this point? Through DXR, Navi has ray tracing capability, btw....

    If you don't play games that support ray-tracing, then the capability provides no added value. None of the games I play support or will support ray-tracing in the near future, therefore, the additional $50-100 cost for a graphics card with the same or similar performance doesn't make sense just to get "RTX"... Maybe if DA4 ever gets released and supports ray-tracing, I may reconsider my position on the "tech".....

    It makes more sense to look at the "bigger picture" when making a purchase. Features and functions that won't be utilized don't add value. It doesn't matter if you prefer NVidia or AMD. Unused "features" don't add value to the product.

    In the future, games are more likely to support DXR than they are RTX anyway.....

    It was already said that DXR is supported by Navi....and seeing as how DXR is built into DX12 and provides ray-tracing functions....Navi, technically, supports ray-tracing.
     
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    I know that :D but the user who i was asking don't. Thats why (or maybe just fanboyism) his first post in this thread was unfortunate.
     

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    Lol, I limit fps at all times and have VSync disabled. No tearing whatsoever. That includes Fury X, RX-580 and RX 5700 XT.
     
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    There's quite a few misguided posts in this thread. Happens in every AMD related thread. They get swamped by fanboys and shills that want to see AMD fail at everything....
     
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    Yeah I know. That's exactly what I meant by lottery. Two different FS panels here. Same story.

    The definition of bug, of dodgy sw or hw is not 100% of time not working for 100% of people. Those kind of products don't get to pass the early development stage, let alone to hit the market.
     
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    Really doubt it'd be priced so high, AMD isn't stupid as it'd be a no brainer if the two cards are priced similarly. IF priced similarly, I'd of course take the RTX2080 Super, IF I were to upgrade that is......I'm betting that the 5800XT would be cheaper.
     
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    I wasn't aware of that / not considering it since I'm running a custom loop watercooling, but yeah that's probably a plus for those using air. Although the people I know personally, don't give a damn about that, excep they notice in loudness of the fans. But I concurr, it's a plus for AMD.

    Like I said, when I do make the move from 1440p to 4K in the future, I'll have to consider all of my ecosystem investments again, anyways. And besides the screen there is nothing keeping me with Nvidia but performance considerations.
     

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