I read a "fairly in-depth and specific discussion" that contained a lot of conjecture.... As to that claim of me being an AMD fanboy..... I'm the world's worst fanboy....lol NVidia: MX200 (x2), MX400 (x2), FX5700XT, GF6200, GF6800, GF7300, GF7600GT, GF8600GT (x2), GF9600GT, GT210, GT220, GTS240, GTS250, GTX275, GTX460, GTX560Ti, GT640, GTX660 (x2), GTX970, GTX1660Ti AMD/ATi: Rage Pro, 9200SE (x2), 9600XT, x700 Pro, HD2400, HD4850, HD7870, HD7950, R5 240, RX470, RX5700 You, on the other hand, have spent this entire thread claiming AMD is "5 years behind" NVidia....however, the performance shows the contrary. Actual facts, say you're wrong. Your response to those facts seems to be to attempt to compare AMD's current products to NVidia's future (unreleased) products. If someone needs a graphics card TODAY, they are going to be looking at cards that are currently available. They aren't going to be looking at cards that are still months away at best.