I'm debating on getting an Evga 470. I have a 5850, but I'm running in to an annoying problem with the card. I can't get Vsync to turn off for Direct Draw games, and none of my games have the option to turn Vsync on or off in the game. So far I'm led to believe that this is an ATI driver issue, and that its been around for a while. If I'd known, I would have gone for a 470 instead of the 5850.