Acer Predator XB271Hbmiprz 27-Inch Gaming Monitor

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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  2. SirDremor

    SirDremor Master Guru

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    FullHD... TN... and a whopping price... it's going to be a "success".

    I do wonder if any of these monitor makers perform reality checks before releasing yet another piece of... product.


    On a side note - I am even more amazed that someone is still buying TN-based monitors.
     
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    FrenchKiss Master Guru

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    They should release a WQHD 27" 144hz curved gsync monitor, then I'll buy it! Otherwise... no.
     
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    Aside from the stupid price, what's the reason for the stupid name (Hbmiprz) ?
     

  5. Agent-A01

    Agent-A01 Ancient Guru

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    Uh not true in the slightest.
     
  6. SirDremor

    SirDremor Master Guru

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    Sorry, can't agree with you.
    Human eye (and brain) in general can't process more than 50-60 images per second, so it is highly improbable you can actually see the difference between 144 and 165Hz, even if you fall in <1% of world population with hyper-sensitive eyes.
    May be you mean something different, like seeing subtle differences in color accuracy, but it is still highly questionable.
    If you really see some distortions (given you somehow check different monitors connected to identical PCs) – may be it is not the issue with display, but rather with respective PC…

    Also, just out of curiosity - can you please define "fast paced shooter"?
     
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    buhehe Master Guru

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    Are you implying that 120hz monitors are fluff?
     
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    pls dont gay
     
  9. Corrupt^

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    Not and entirely true and also, people think to much about just our "eyes".

    When you're gaming, you're using your sense of touch, coordination, timing (your brain learns specific timings), ...

    Our brains are actually quite good at sensing things being "out of sync". I could have a guy looking at me play with input lag, his eyes won't see it, but I'll notice something is off.
     
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    nhlkoho Ancient Guru

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    There's nothing wrong with TN panels but that price is ridiculous.
     

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    Just gotta love that guy HH.

    "(not that's not a typo!)" :)
     
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    I believe the number is closer to 72 at a common monitor brightness in a moderately dark room and a 50% duty cycle on a CRT. Every one of those variables changes things, since eyes are an analog chemical system and not a digital system. For instance, the eye responds much faster when things are bright.

    And then there's the fact that an LCD doesn't blink, so that particular measurement is useless anyway.

    But even with such measurements, it's still totally irrelevant.

    If you step in a room with an 80Hz strobe light, you probably won't be able to see the strobe light blinking (At this point it is basically just an arc lamp.) However, you can still TELL that it is blinking when you wave your hands or move around. The images are not linked smoothly together, so the flashes are separated by physical space, so it doesn't matter if your brain can keep up in speed.

    I could go more into this, but I would need images, videos, and calculations.

    But essentially, if you move something fast enough through even a 1000Hz strobe or refresh, you will still be able to tell, even if you can't see physical flashing.
     
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    I hope the price is a typo, it doesn't make sense at all.

    I bought an Acer XB270HU last year, which is a 27" IPS, 1440p, 144hz and Gsync model, at the exact same price.
     
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    Yes... you are exactly right with that. But that's where people.... forgive my way of putting it..... "Go full retard" when it comes to talking about framerate. People are always saying "That's a lie that the human eye can only see up to 60hz. There is no limit to what the human eye can see. I can easily tell the difference between 60hz, 120hz, and 144hz." All they're doing is making themselves look stupid by using THAT as their basis for the human eye's capabilities. As you said, you notice the difference between the frame rates when you're directly controlling what is going on on-screen. What do you see 9.9 times out of 10 when people are "testing" how well they can determine what framerate their monitor is running at? Fast, twitchy movements. They're looking for telltale signs of a lower framerate.

    I mean.... These people are apparently those that COMPLETELY forget that when something is spinning fast enough, our eyes perceive it as spinning the opposite way..... or that if you quickly turn your head WITHOUT moving your eyes, everything between where you were originally looking, and where you stopped, is nothing but a blur.
     
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    I am sold on wide color gamuts
    HDR
    OLED
    And
    QHD/UHD

    But since no gaming monitor is out yet with a combination of these technologies
    ( unless I wanted to just use an LG TV )

    I would have loved me some Asus SWIFT QHD competition if this Acer assumably supports 3dvision as well.
    Because those ROG monitors are insanely priced! ( and because my three HN274H 27" Acer's are going strong nearly 6 years later )
    It just seems insane that a TN 3dvision NVsurround QHD upgrade which considering HDR and 4K alone will eventually replace every monitor you own someday??? Even if u dont trust OLED yet.
    Should be as expensive as a used car! When the purchase would be temporary till hardware can run 4k in peripheral glory of 3 monitors.

    Why even invest in ips when ips can not come close to matching color accuracy of wcg color gamut. The dynamic ratio of HDR and the rich blacks of OLED! In which case...
    Everthing we buy is obviously temporary!
    $700!
    X 3 ( cause wider is better )
    When these technologies are obviously right around the corner!
    ( probably sooner than the hardware that will run my dream 4k eyefinity/NVSURROUND rig )
    $700?
    How stupid do they think we are? Shheeesh!

    I would have thought that the idea of 1080p setup for the next ten years would had been insane 6 years ago...
    But since no one seems willing to actually... you know? Compete?
    That I will probably add another 4 years and live without the QHD TN in the meantime.
    DAMMIT!
     

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    Hbm usually designates their gaming freesync gsync 3dvision monitors I believe.

    So prz would be gaming pronz! :banana:
     

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