According to reports, AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D does not enable overclocking.

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  1. Reardan

    Reardan Master Guru

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    Hilbert you gotta set up some kind of water testing program for guru3d members these people must be ingesting obscene amounts of lead to be so procreating retarded.

    Triple the cache, 5% lower max clock, with no idea how it's going to perform.

    The Brain Trust: THIS CPU SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN MADE AMD HAS LOST THEIR MINDS
     
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  2. asturur

    asturur Maha Guru

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    this is bullshit, because you don't like the smaller boost frequence, or the 450$ price tag.
     
  3. H83

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    Like others said, modern CPUs have little or none overclocking headroom, so no problem.

    As for the CPU, it might perform very good but i think i´ll wait for their next gen.
     
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    While the lower clock speed is a bummer, overclocking is mostly just left for bragging rights these days, since the heat output is not worth the tiny gains in performance. CPUs have rarely been the bottleneck in modern systems. This is one of the reasons where Intel has actually started to be more compelling these days, because their non-K or non-X models are usually a lot cheaper but the loss of OC is pretty insignificant.
     
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    Memory performance > cpu overclock

    Anyway, I will not downgrade from 5950x. Waiting for Zen 4 :D
     
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  6. TLD LARS

    TLD LARS Master Guru

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    This is still on prerelease firmware and on prerelease hardware, with prerelease drivers.
    Do motherboards even support the CPU yet?
    Can not find any listings of official support of the 5800x 3d on Asrock, Asus or MSI homepage, so it is a bit early to jump to conclusions.
     
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    they rolled out bios (agesa 1.2.0.6) for many boards starting second week of last month.
     
  8. Reddoguk

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    With AMD chips 3XXX, 5XXX and PBO these chips auto overclock anyway.

    My 5800X already is boosting to 5ghz which is 300mhz more than listed speeds.

    5800X is at an all time low atm. Can be had right now for just £320, 5900X is £400 and 5950X is down to £550.
     
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  9. tunejunky

    tunejunky Ancient Guru

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    OK

    OC'ers calm down and think.

    this is a 3d cache On Top of The CPU
    that cache ain't liquid metal.

    and guess what?
    it's the future as Intel has a similar type of technology

    and what else?
    the benefits outweigh the loss (or habit), but you can still get your OC on with a GPU
     
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  10. tunejunky

    tunejunky Ancient Guru

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    all x570's will get an update you can flash, idk about older AM4 boards
    it's pin for pin the exact same as 5800x (but physically taller)
     

  11. cucaulay malkin

    cucaulay malkin Ancient Guru

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    exactly
    yes,but that's unrelated

    imo this is a decent product as far as halo products go,more for enthusiasts than gamers really.
    the only ones that are gonna be disappointed are the people who thought amd will take the whole 12th gen high end with this.
    cause this is pretty much gonna be 12600kf,only 200eur more expensive.
     
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  12. tunejunky

    tunejunky Ancient Guru

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    i don't know of a single oc'er that leaves their gpu alone, but that's just me.
     
  13. cucaulay malkin

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    they don't but like I said,compensating your cpu frequency loss with gpu frequency is just simply unrelated

    theres days people undervolt,and it yields incredible results.
    I can get my 3060ti faster at 185w than it's at stock 215w
     
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    War in Europe and competitive underclocking. I have seen almost everything now. And I'm only 44.
     
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    :D:D:D:D:D
     

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    That they don't want to sell very many but want at top of charts for some games. If you think about it Zen4 should be here by August and that is only 4 months after this lands in April. This is 9900KFC type of chip where Intel sold that for a few months to get it on performance charts.
     
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    Not sure about the overclocking is dead comment as I overclock and have overclocked all the CPU's that I have owned, granted they are Intel chips and my latest 12700K overclocks very well, especially the per core overclock with 5.3GHz on two cores and then down. Alongside fine tuning the vcore to bring it down to the lowest level for the highest overclock at good temps is still a fun past time and it does provide a nice performance boost when tuning the ram as well. The Intel CPU's still have some decent headroom!

    The 5800XD looks like AMD have taken a leaf out of Intel's playbook though it does not look too bad and it may excel in certain use cases. Also $450 isn't too bad and with the next gen AMD CPU's just around the corner, I think that price will come down as they usually do with AMD.
     
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  19. Pryme

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    OC being activated could bring problems to the V-cache stack, maybe to much heat? But yes, OC is dead nowadays, this new CPUs already make good job getting all the performance they can.

    I always Overclocked my CPUs, still remember my first Celeron 266Mhz overclock to 333Mhz, it was the heyday of pure performance!!
     
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    The latest rumors say otherwise Zen4 is probably going to be 4th qtr at the earliest.

    https://twitter.com/greymon55/status/1500388358597402626
     
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