According to reports, AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D does not enable overclocking.

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Lower frequency, no overclocking, high price...what ware they thinking?
     
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    96 MEGA POWER!!
     
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    Obomination thats what it is. Should have not been released at all. They should focus and bring on the zen4 asap.
     
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    @Undying I had to make a reference to the 16 bit era games that would advertise that the cardridge was holding 2mb of data with cringy huge letters saying things like 2 MEGA power :p.
     
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    Yeah i got that. ;)
     
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    What's point in overclocking these days anyways, CPUs boost so high out of the box. You can maybe get 100-200 MHz more with insane voltages and temps, not worth the trouble.
     
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    Exactly, the days of getting a 50% OC on a C2D are long gone. For me on my 3800x ive squeezed out better performance by undervolting and using Ryzen Master.
     
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    TRUE! To gain 200Mhz will need a overpower increave of voltage, loud and energy bill. The 3D Vcache its already do a great "overclock" to you. Overclock nowadays is only viable when you be able to invest a lot of money to build a rig for it and to make benchmark... out of that is just waste money...
     
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    I only play sim racing games on 3440x1440@144Hz. And my 6800XT is capable of stable 144FPS with minus 20% power (iRacing, ACC,...). Less heat, almost silent operation,... So if 5800X3D will not be OC-able it actually doesn't matter to me anymore. The days when you bought Celeron 600 and run it at 900Mhz are long gone. And new CPUs have almost no headroom, except if you go nuts and increase power 25% for 5% gain.
     
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    Hmm... i hope this 3D Cache will be more than enough to compensate for the lack of frequency.

    I think AMD going to launch it when intel releases the 12900KS, aka next month.
     
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    This launch is likely a test platform for Zen 4. Use the customers as guinea pigs to iron out the bugs with 3d so lessons learned can be applied to Zen 4.
     
  13. Horus-Anhur

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    Lower clock speeds and no OC. I suspect we are going to see some applications and games with a performance regression, compared to the 5800X.
    I hope I'm wrong.
     
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    With PBO, the 5800X boosts to 4.85 GHz with single and light threaded loads. And that’s with just PBO’s increased power budgets, no explicit clock increase.
     
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    I hope Hilbert would do a comprehensive test with possible OC and PBO boosting vs OC'ed ADL review.

    We all want to see potential bang for the buck with these crazy scalping prices.
     
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    Does HH ever do a review that is not comprehensive?

    OCing is pretty much always done on most CPUs by the manufacturer these days.
    Curious on these cpus.
     
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    looks like we get back 5 years, Intel is god tier for gaming and AMD is a MEME joke
     
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    This is not exactly a good news because most likely that means they can't allow themselves to leave any performance on the table,
    but to be perfectly honest I have been more in undervolting for years now on both GPU and CPU, especially when undervolting can mean overlocking (GPU)
     
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    That is just crazy hyperbolic in every direction.
     
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    With the cache making up for the what, 100 mhz in actual clockspeed not just what it says on the box, and noone actually overclocking Ryzens anyway outside a few people who can actually manage to get anything better than the auto-mode.... well, not much lost ,I'd say.
     
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