According to an Intel contest, its top-of-the-line Arc GPU will cost about $ 800

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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  2. anticupidon

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    Let's take it with some grains of salt.
    Whatever price is announced now, it could be lowered.
    Nonetheless, what matters most are realistic performance and benchmark results.
    Even so, those results can and will be improved by updated drivers and some tweaks.
    It's early days to even consider an opinion.
    Knowing the price beforehand is always a negative decision factor.
    It's a known fact in marketing, it's harder to convince a possible client to buy something who was given the price first, then given him what exactly the client receives for that amount of money.
    Usually it's backwards, you build up your speech, explain strong points, weak points with solutions and at the punch line price is named.

    Alas, this is the internet, people want to know everything beforehand, but sometimes this makes more harm than good. And people seem to like to fight over details of something unreleased and without real life tests.

    Good or bad, we need competition, in these days. The market will shift and settle, we will see.
    As many times before stated, let's wait and see.
     
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    intellimoo Master Guru

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    I just want to know if it will be a viable alternative to the Big 2.
     
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    When evaluating a graphics card's price in 2021, and by the looks of it in 2022, the essential thing is its value to the miners. Can miners still make profit after paying the price? That's all that matters. Nobody in the industry is currently counting on gamers.
     
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    Let's say goodbye to the 'cheap' graphic cards once for all...
     
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    I don't know about you, but I don't want my graphics card to arc.
     
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    Yeah :( stupid mining. Worst thing to happen maybe ever.
     
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    I wont touch it before its been in 1000s of users hands for several weeks or months to at least get an indication of how good driver support is.
     
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    They calling them ARC?

    I wonder does Sony know about that - their premium projector lens is called ARC-F for a long time.

    Not sure, maybe with copyright, it doesn't matter if it means two different things?

    http://www.sonypremiumhome.com/projectors/VPL-VW995ES.php

    Corner-to-corner sharpness with the ARC-F lens
    For pristine image quality across the entire screen, the VPL-VW995ES features an All-Range Crisp Focus (ARC-F) lens. This large-aperture lens adopts an all-glass design for its 18 elements, including six extra low-dispersion (ELD) elements. This ensures optimal convergence of the red, green and blue primaries even at the extreme edges of the image for a clear and vivid image wherever you look.
     
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    If these are the prices then yes it will be at least 3070 level.
     
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    There are plenty of reason to be salty already.
    A low price would have managed expectations but at 800 if it's not substantially better than a 3080 it's a dud.
    We can't expect good RT support, or good driver support, or for it to work well with most games, or anything really. It's a new addition to intel's roster so we should expect nothing from the start.

    I don't expect their highest end card to deliver on the promise it's price tag makes for it, but we can at least hope that the other models offer some reasonable amount of bang for the buck.
     
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    Intel isn't stupid - they wouldn't sell a GPU with 3070Ti performance for a $800 MSRP and think gamers will be fine with it. So we can extrapolate the following:
    A. The rumor is false and it won't be sold for that much.
    B. The performance of the flagship will be much better than a 3070Ti.
    C. Intel knows these GPUs will all sell out anyway, so they might as well maximize their profits.
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    D. This is a workstation or server GPU and not a gaming GPU.
     
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    There couldn't have been a better time for Intel to enter the market. Not only are prices up, making a product more valuable than it should be, but if Intel's new card mines well, it will automatically sell. If things were normal, Intel would need to convince gamers, which is pretty difficult, but now Intel only needs to present very simple numbers (although I doubt Intel itself will present them), and if they are satisfactory, miners will buy the cards. The drivers only need to be stable enough to run the mining software on relatively clean OS installations, which ought to be a lot easier than running myriad different games, old and new, without visible errors.
     
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    Contrary, Crypto market is very soon (few months) reaching its 4 year cycle top. After that... there will be LOTS of cards to buy. 2nd hand indeed. But even if for any reason 2nd hand is a no go for you, the 1st hand cards will HAVE to react to 2 things:
    SHARP drop of demand from miners.
    Drastic increase of used GFX cards on the 2nd hand market.

    They can stick their cards where it does not shine, if they keep the prices, because there will be 100000s of used cards for a budged available.
     

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    800$ plus scalper tax, cheap!
     
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    so , less silicon is more dollars......right, right, oh i'm sure their R&D needs money just as their CEO's. Talk more BS then big tech.
     
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    Agree. Intel needed a little luck considering all things. I really hope they are successful as we need more competitors in the GPU space. If we have three players I can see open standards being pushed a lot more. No way devs want to code something different for three GPU makers. Nividas proprietary stuff will eventually die off. This will help the entire industry.
     

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