Discussion in 'The Guru's Pub' started by Pill Monster, Sep 28, 2009.
Here's how big is the universe we can observe. Up till now.
40,000,000 light years iirc..
Cool video showing all of the known universe best so far, if you ask me!
Since Time itself is an inherent aspect of the Universe and taking the Many Worlds Interpretation into consideration, the Universe has a starting point but continues infinitely.
Soo many intelligent responses but yet none have factored in time itself.
Don't know if this has been posted yet, but it's a good way to get your head around it.
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by American Museum of Natural History.
I stopped reading about this when I read A Brief History Of Time and realised I understand nothing. People usually want a simplified version of events and, when it comes to astronomy, there isn't one and that's when my mind stopped being able to cope with it. I still read about all the theories, and we have come a long way in the past 20 years but the thing that I am still waiting for is when we are able to bend space to form a wormhole or to create the Warp effect. Then we will have caught up with Star Trek, as the only two things we haven't discovered yet are the Replicator (E=MC2) and the Warp Drive.
I love astronomy. Sometimes I look at the photo's Hubble has taken and I have to fight back tears. The universe is unparalleled in beauty and majesty.
What is interesting is the discussion that was ongoing a few pages back about life. The idea of 'intelligent' life itself is proposterous. It's ludicrous to think that only carbon based life is possible in the vast expanse of the universe or that there is no other life at all, when we haven't even travelled anywhere other than the moon. There're bacteria living in baths of boiling sulphur and yet we cling to the idea that life needs water and oxygen.
The reason why many believe there is no other life is simple: we can't possibly live with the idea that we might not be the masters of the universe, like we are on earth, and that we can be wiped out just as easily as we are wiping many species on this planet out.
Then there's the idea of intelligence. What is intelligent life? Would you call human beings intelligent? Look at our great inventions, we're set to travel among the stars, so how can we not be intelligent? And yet we're nothing more than parasites. We're consciously destroying and making our own paradise uninhabitable in the name of greed and profit. Also we're nearly permanently at war with ourselves and eachother and we have come close to total annihilation several times, and that fear and threat isn't subsiding.
I believe we're intelligent but not intelligent enough to overcome our simple weakness, greed, to realise that we might drive ourselves to extinction. While extinction is a part of nature and is accepted by many, while specy after specy disappears, nobody will be able to simply accept that we are the greatest threat to ourselves.
Next time you think we're intelligent think of Agent Smith's words and then reconsider our 'intelligence'.
At the end of the day humanity knows nearly nothing about the universe and is arrogant about it, knowing that we live on the outer edge of our own galaxy, in an area that is very sparse with planets.
imho you can't measure it, or better said the size is
I mean.. there isn't just a wall of bricks at the "end" of it.. There must be something..
It's the same as how they thought the earth is flat, and you just drop down when reaching the edge.. That's impossible..
LOL Humor is good to have in a thread like even this! Good one, man.
It is as big as my eyes can see. What I don't or can't see dosen't exsist. If a tree falls in a forest it dosen't make any sound because I didn't personally hear it lol
An old image, some of you may have already seen it.. it personally never ceases to amaze me each time I do see it.
I'll link you to the url as it's quite a large image, zoom in !
i feel so insignificant =P
I AM insignificant
saying insicnificant means I actually MEAN something
dooes HUMANITY mean anything?
Lol I wasn't kidding, at least not entirely
Can't vouch for the source, I literally just googled "is time an illusion," but it sums up the point well enough
Surely, you were kidding to the utmost definitive of degrees!!!! Good one again!!
Perhaps you should do more that a simpleton google search to rile posts. Try actual learning. It helps to alleviate ignorance
Did you read the article? It's actually pretty good. A little hard to wrap your mind around, but it did make what people mean by saying "time is an illusion" a bit clearer for me :smoke:
The point was that whether or not time is an "inherent aspect of the universe" isn't a decided debate.
Boy my last post sounded kinda flamey. Sorry 'bout that chief, it was unintentional.
Sure, Time as perceived can be an illusion, but I think though were getting to apples vs. oranges.
It's definitely bigger that Walmart!
New pics from the Hubble, celebrating it's 20th anniversary.