A Gun Thread - Short Thread

Discussion in 'The Guru's Pub' started by "Born"_*Leader*, Nov 19, 2009.

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How many people here own guns?

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    5.2%
  2. Yes x1

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  3. Yes xMore than 1

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  4. None

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  1. ST19AG_WGreymon

    ST19AG_WGreymon Ancient Guru

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    According to them:

     
  2. wootwoot

    wootwoot Master Guru

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    You can fire 7.62 in a .308.
     
  3. Chillin

    Chillin Ancient Guru

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    Here's something that will save my keyboard:


    To put it simply, you aren't going to hit much using a 7.62mm in a .308 sniper rifle.
     
  4. ST19AG_WGreymon

    ST19AG_WGreymon Ancient Guru

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    There's also a guy selling a 1945 German Mauser that was re-barreled for 7.62 NATO in the 1950's by Israel, he wants $325. A bit out of budget for me at the moment but it's an interesting piece.
     

  5. wootwoot

    wootwoot Master Guru

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    It won't be the optimal ammo for shooting .5 MOA, but in the situation of being forced to pick up the enemies ammo. I think you'd make do just fine for average range.

    Standard issue 7.62 isn't going to be the best for accuracy, but I don't see a problem with accuracy because of the .308 chamber.

    Might have to account for more bullet drop though.
     
  6. Chillin

    Chillin Ancient Guru

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    Remember, the bullet itself is wider than the barrel originally. So a 5.56mm is actually roughly ~5.70mm at the beginning, with it narrowing down to ~5.66/69mm for the grooves and 5.56mm for the rest of the barrel; this actually lengthens the bullet slightly.

    When you try and fire a bullet that does not expand correctly AND is using less powder, well then you have a bullet that is not only going to drop like hell, but also be blown around. At this point you are lucky to get 50m-100m on average in such a situation.

    Think of the situation between using the M855A1 (SS109 green tip) 5.56mm in a non-stabilized M16A1 barrel (1:12 twist rate), all that happens is that the bullet goes spinning off somewhere and sometimes just drops right off.

    So can you fire? Most probably to a yes.
    Should you? Probably not.
     
  7. FULMTL

    FULMTL Ancient Guru

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  8. ST19AG_WGreymon

    ST19AG_WGreymon Ancient Guru

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    I wouldn't buy it. The whole point to the recoil system is reduction/elimintaion of muzzle climb during rapid/full auto fire, which is null for us civilians. Glorified handgun.
     
  9. Chillin

    Chillin Ancient Guru

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    It's refreshing to see an new action in a firearm, we've kind of hit a mechanical limit these days. All "new" rifles have the same three actions:

    Stoner DI - AR15, etc
    Kalashnikov piston - AK47, etc
    Stoner piston - SCAR, ACR, SA80, G36, etc

    So the KRISS is a breath of fresh air in a crowded market. Mind you the idea they have dates from around the second world war (I forget the gun that had it), but at least they've done it properly. But like FULMTL said, a regular civilian has no need to full-auto .45, neither does the military by the way. The KRISS is a pure SWAT weapon.
     
  10. dense_drummer

    dense_drummer Master Guru

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    Thought this seemed awesome, and a bit "What the hell?"
     

  11. Rifle_Grunt

    Rifle_Grunt Ancient Guru

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    You missed off the nerf gun :wanker: Still not quite- crossbows are still legal and are the closest to a real gun in terms of lethality you can have without owning a shotgun silence . I have my self a re-curve bow for field archery

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Svein_Skogen

    Svein_Skogen Maha Guru

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    Since we're bringing airguns into the thread:

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    Weihrauch HW100TK. Mine's a .177 FAC version (25J muzzle energy)

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    Weihrauch HW45 STL

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    Weihrauch HW75

    All three of these are more precise than any shooter is. If clamped down, we're talking "single hole" groups. Quite good training-tools. ;)

    //Svein
     
  13. ST19AG_WGreymon

    ST19AG_WGreymon Ancient Guru

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    Nice competition-grade airguns!
     
  14. Svein_Skogen

    Svein_Skogen Maha Guru

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    They do the job as a home-training-tool (with the proper backstop, of course), something a 9x19 (or .22LR) wouldn't really do.

    //Svein
     
  15. ST19AG_WGreymon

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    PhazeDelta1 Moderator Staff Member

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    that looks pretty sweet. what rounds are you feeding that thing?
     
  18. ST19AG_WGreymon

    ST19AG_WGreymon Ancient Guru

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    5.45x39 Russian 80s surplus

    Also my dad's finished AR build:

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    Plum Crazy Polymer Lower
    Palmetto State Armory Upper 16" Stainless 1/8 twist heavy barrel chambered in .223 Wylde.
     
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  19. peanutmanak47

    peanutmanak47 Master Guru

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    Just bought this today. Haven't gotten to fire it yet though. Will take care of that wednesday with 500rds ready to be put through it. I'm pretty damn excited. Been a dream gun to own and now I got it.
     
  20. BigBlockTowncar

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    I just purchase a Beretta 92FS Inox. It is very nice
     

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