I would like to say hello to all the people in the Guru3d forums, I have spend a good time visiting you and finally I have decided to register. I have read the reviewof the Hercules card. Very nice card and I was very pleased with the review also. I am geting one of these babies for the new system that I am building, over the Asus Canterwood and a 3Ghz P4. Both are exactly similar for me in the features they offer. The price is almost the same. These two are the only ones available here in Norway at the moment. Bit tje Hercules appears to be delayed until may. I have read a lot of good thinks about the Sapphire 9700 Pro so it is quite logical that the 9800 pro would be at least as same as good as its predesesor no? This card is avaliable now. What do you think guys?