970 memory allocation issue revisited

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by alanm, Jan 23, 2015.

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  1. jode67

    jode67 Banned

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    I get many will contemplate lawsuits and that will get some results. may have to test my luck there
     
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    What do you expect from a lawsuit? Your money refunded? You can do that without a law suit. Does not make any sense.
     
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    They would have been noticing it, why should engineering even keep the it a secret to the rest of the company how the card throttles beyond 3.5GB?
    That would actually be a very bad thing to do, and even be enough reason to be fired over.

    If you create a piece of software with a very important limit, wouldn't you make sure that no one would miss it when looking over your documentation?
    Both you and the rest of your company know that it would cost them quite a lot if you didn't and that piece of software was sold to customers for whom even marketing would know that they would exceed that limit.
    Lucky for you that you can fix the code most of the time, try that with a piece of hardware ^^

    Hardware and software design are two different worlds, if you got a flaw in your hardware design you can't fix it afterwards without building a new product so to say.
     
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    Yeah, with software it is easier.
    I don`t think that some engineer silently did that tweak with memory subsystem. I am sure it was stated in the architecture documentation. And that is top level specialists responsibility. As such tweak is needed only to make 970 slower than 980 I see marketing roots - so top marketing guys also were aware.

    Yeah, but project management (and project steps) are the same, the structure of departments and levels of responsibility too.

    Edit: And I doubt that ordinary engineer is allowed to speak with public on behalf of the entire company. Most probably he will be fired.

    Edit: How often we see tech specialists speaking with the audience? Usually we see big boss, PR boss etc
     
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    On second thought don't stop whining, it's very entertaining
     
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    I think nvidia finds it entertaining as well
     
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    I'm not going to dig through all these pages to quote, but when people come on here and question Hilbert's integrity as a reviewer alot of people take offence. He's been nothing but forthcoming with his findings and with his criticism of nvidia dropping the ball on this


    Edit:eek:ffence not offense
     
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    You wouldn't win. You would get laughed right out of court. Also you wouldn't find a lawyer that would take the case. Plus the only people responsible would be marketing.
     
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    that marketing would still be nvidia and nvidia would still be responsible for that "their" marketing team publishes
     

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    Oops
     
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    he has already said he stands corrected about that and you probs read that a few post later so why even bother bringing it up ?
     
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    I've said that like 3 times already.
     
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    I would agree that using the 970 at extreme reolutions is unrealistic.

    But, even at 1080p, Shadow of Mordor will go up to around 3.7-3.8 after 20 mins of gameplay. Then I get the stuttering and hitching, even though the fps remains high.
     
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    The card has 56 ROPs.....but is only capable of using 52.

    Because 52 is a more accurate number based on what ROPs are actually usable.

    What most people don't realize, is that the majority of cars don't actually put the rated power "to the ground". Most of the rated power is lost through the drive-train. So, that 110HP engine, was probably only getting around 90HP "to the ground".... So, shouldn't that be considered false advertising as well?

    Some of the whining is entertaining.....but some of it is also down right pathetic.
     
  19. AMN3S1AC

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    I suppose no-one from Nvidia read any reviews of the GTX 970 from the major tech sites?

    No-one at Nvidia noticed that the specs listed on the front page of most reviews were different than what was actually true?

    Impossible, they even link to these reviews on your Official GTX 970 page.

    http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-970/reviews

    I don't believe that they didn't know about the mistake before. After the first reviews went live, Nvidia should have contacted the sites immediately to correct the specifications error.
     
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    Actually the 52 ROP was a typo by Hilbert which he already acknowledged and corrected. It is 56. http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=5000674&postcount=1143
     
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