Im talking about just what i said. This is not a 8800 thread so people comming in here complaining about no 8800 drivers is getting old. Its happening in almost every driver thread created lately. The problem is nobody stays on TOPIC in the thread! This is not a 8800 driver thread so lets KEEP it that way! As for these drivers i gave em a go. I dont see frame increases, but some games do seem to have smoother play, especially with vsync on for me. I used to get a small stutter here and there with vsync on, and I havent seen one yet.