8GB RAM with NO PAGEFILE CLUB or TOPIC (lol)

Discussion in 'Operating Systems' started by Mr.Bigtime, Apr 20, 2009.

  1. GSDragoon

    GSDragoon Master Guru

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    That's a lot cached. What does the Memory\System Cache Resident Bytes performance counter look like at that time?
     
  2. nanogenesis

    nanogenesis Maha Guru

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    Thinking of buying 32gb, going full retard one last time for ddr3 :)

    Collecting money, will decide later if I get a 256GB SSD (probably BEST purchase) or spend on RAM for lols.
     
  3. Athlonite

    Athlonite Maha Guru

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    I still have a page file but it's placed on an PCIe x4 card with an apple 128GB SSD
    and at 16GB size it manages to use some ~300MB even when gaming
     
  4. AitoreteFC

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    I have no pagefile from 6 months ago and no problems, it works great and without stressing the HDD
     
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  5. Mufflore

    Mufflore Ancient Guru

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    People without a PC also dont have problems not using a page file.
     
  6. TimmyP

    TimmyP Master Guru

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    Disabling the page file is only for misguided bragging rights. I ran without one... Heck I was in this "club" for awhile.

    The one thing that creeps up eventually makes it not even worth it, not to mention W10 new memory management...
     
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  7. Carfax

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    This basically. Disabling the page file is counterproductive, especially on Windows 10. Windows will not use your RAM properly if a page file is not present.
     
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    alanm Ancient Guru

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    Been making that argument since Win 7. Even if no issues not using page file, there is zero performance benefit from it.
     
  9. Chastity

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    I recently dealt with this issue, and the biggest issue holding back disabling the pagefile is memory space commits from applications. I upgraded to 12GB on my system, and when running some games, like DOOM, would get low memory warnings due to committed memory. It's not necessarily being used, but being asked for.

    So I reinstalled my older 6GB, so now I run 18GB, and can now have a disabled pagefile. I'm sure this has been discussed before in this thread, but I am not going to read 55 pages to find out. :)
     
  10. Astyanax

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    i will never run without a pagefile and this is why

    http://azius.com/pagefile-yes1/

    people are sorely misinformed about the memory manager and problems that arise from not having one.
     
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  11. Athlonite

    Athlonite Maha Guru

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    OK so what's the difference between the Pagefile and the Swapfile
     
  12. RzrTrek

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    I've been there, done that and couldn't agree more, I always ran into stability issues with it disabled, just leave your pagefile on auto and enjoy your coffee.
     
  13. jaggerwild

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    I think this topic should be changed as it was posted when windows XP was most in use 2009. If someone reads this with Windows 10, I think its a totally different ball game. OR the topic should be restarted for 10...........
     
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  14. DAW40

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    You will need a page file. Also 8GB is not enough for Windows 10... period.
     
  15. jbmcmillan

    jbmcmillan Ancient Guru

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    I have no trouble with 8 GBs.
     
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  16. yasamoka

    yasamoka Ancient Guru

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    Do you still get triple-channel for a 3x4GB + 3x2GB combination of RAM? It would not be worth it if you lose that.
     
  17. Chastity

    Chastity Ancient Guru

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    Yes, the banks are independent. So I get triple channel performance on both, as long as I keep all the 2GB ones on one, and the 4GB ones on another.
     
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    Well

    I would never run a page file if you have more than 64gb of ram,

    Why thrash your nvme or ssd?


    Less than 64gb of ram then set up a fixed amount page file.


    Lastly

    Set up memory management correctly in the registry in HKLM
     
  19. HeavyHemi

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    Why what? There's no thrashing. Windows is set up to manage itself properly and there's no technical reason for your advice. As a matter of fact in some instances apps and games will not work without a page file. Bad advice is bad.
     
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    The system maps the lowest size of the three to triple channel, and any excess is then used in single-channel mode. So only 2GB of that is actually running in triple channel mode, the other 2GB is running single channel. Don't take this personally, but the biggest constraint is it is a bad idea.
     

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