8800GT to ?

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by tigerx87, Nov 15, 2010.

  1. tigerx87

    tigerx87 New Member

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    ok so my 8800GT been acting kinda weird recently, my computer said that the device wasn't workign properly and it had artifacts and weird stuff allover the screens, etc. i've try reinstalling driver, driversweeper, etc. nothing seems to work. i've decided it's time for an upgrade but i dont' really know where to go from here.

    i've been looking at the GTS 450 or GTX 460, but i'm not sure if it'll fit in my case. it's the length that i'm worry most about.

    so to sum it up:
    1. is the 8800GT the same size (lengthwise) as the GTS450 or the GTX460
    2. i dont' have alot of budget so which would be a better upgrade?
     
  2. Sever

    Sever Ancient Guru

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    get a ruler and measure it out if you're not sure. but i dont think you'll have fitment issues with a gtx460 as long as youve got a mid tower case. if your case is a micro-atx case or something, then i'd be worried.

    edit: according to nvidia, the reference gtx460 is 8.25inches long.
     
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  3. st0nez

    st0nez Master Guru

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    LOL bake it!!! (vertical lines down screen?) I've done it to a swag of cards.

    Otherwise not sure about size but my cousin swapped from a 88gt to 460 and he loves it, and he has a very basic lian li case.


     
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    The 460's were the same length as the 8800 gt akimbo's i replaced. You shouldnt have a problem
     

  5. tigerx87

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    awesome replies, anyone got information on how long the gs450 is? i'm leaning toward it cause it's only 105$ compare to 140 for the 460.

    am i losing ALOT of performance with the 450? i mean it's stilll a step up from the 8800GT right? and i was quite happy with my 8800GT btw.

    p.s. no vertical lines once i bootup into vista, but it does show vertical lines sometime during POST. once it's in vista i have random red & teal dots all over the screen, which comes and goes. i can't watch video since they are messed up, not even gonna try booting up games.
     
  6. Undying

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    GTS450 is 8.25 inches long same as GTX460.

    Btw eather 768mb or 1GB GTX460 is quite faster than GTS450. You should try get atleast 768mb and forget about GTS it isnt that huge step from your 8800GT.
     
  7. mK 2oooN3

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    I got a 9800gt 1gb which card should i go to, i was thinking about just getting atleast 7.0 in wei for windows 7 so it shouldnt be that hard right now i'm at 6.8
     
  8. maleficarus™

    maleficarus™ Banned

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    You won't be losing any performance but gaining performance. A 9600GT is slightly faster then a 8800GT, I know I had one. The GTS450 is faster then a GTS250 and the GTS250 bitch-slaps the 8800GT in anything so how would you be losing performance actually?
     
  9. Sever

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    the gts450 has 196cuda cores iirc and the gtx460 has 336 cuda cores. add in the differing ram speeds and bus widths and it'd still be better to get a gtx460.
     
  10. Neo Cyrus

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    OC your CPU while you're at it. 2.66GHz will be a bottleneck, aim for 3.6GHz+.
     

  11. Tat3

    Tat3 Ancient Guru

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    Windows Expernce Index does not tell anything about the real gpu power you have.

    8800GT is same card as 9800GT... So depensing on your budget, GTX460 would be good upgrade (rest of your PC is fine) or even like GTX470 or some
    ATI/AMD variant like HD6870 if that is what you want.
     
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    I dont think his CPU will bottleneck card like GTS450 but oh well he should try hit alteast 3Ghz to be sure.
     
  13. Neo Cyrus

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    Modern games seem pretty demanding on the CPU. For example most of Bioware's games! Mass Effect 2 pushes my CPU to as high as 70% on 4 cores at the same time, though of course it's usually much lower. The point is if it were slower the game would throttle at those points the CPU spikes.

    Meanwhile my ancient GTX280 gets pushed between 30 and 70% with 4xAA, transparency multisampling, etc. It has enough headroom to turn it up to 8xAA, but I don't to have a constant 60fps in case of spikes, that and it the AA doesn't make much of a difference unless it's combined with supersampling. The resolution is 2048x1152 btw.


    I'm quite certain he wouldn't get a constant 60fps in such games if he left his CPU at stock.
     
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  14. mK 2oooN3

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    Agreed the WEI is not very accurate imo but like i said I just want 7.0's across the board my CPU currently is rated at 7.3 @ 3.0ghz (stock) I can reach 7.4 with medium OCing 3.5ghz+ my ram is also rated at 7.3 which increases to 7.4 once I OC. Then both my graphics categories are 6.8 which is why I wanted a new card to just reach 7.0 or maybe even better. I'm thinking GTX 460, but not counting out the 470 seeing as how I might as well make this upgrade worth it, even tho a 460 would prob be more than enough for the games i play Counter-Strike 1.6, League of Legends, and HON. I'm also planning on upgrading the ram and going to either to 6GB's and getting another 2x1gb or 8GB 2x2gb do you think this will increase my RAM score any?
     
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    The problem with the WEI is that it's about quantity, not quality. For example, having more memory will boost your score, regardless of what speed it is or the timings. CPU score will get boosted purely by speed, not by architecture, cache or anything that really matters. Video cards also highly depend on VRAM, so, the WEI is just points for having more, not having better.

    Getting even the 768MB version of the 460 will be a massive boost to performance, to over 200% in certain games and benchmarks. I don't recommend that, though, the 1GB version is always the best one to get, as it's just a better card.

    The GTS 455 isn't a bad card but doesn't come close to a 460. While there're loads of benchmarks it'll be hard finding one comparing these cards to the 88GT, as it's so old. You could take a GTS 250 (9800GTX+) as base and it'll be a guide as to what you'll be getting, despite the GTS 250 being quite a bit faster than your card.
     

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