8600 GTS OC 3dmark05 results

Yeah, any first time break in period should probably be avoided.

 

I read the DX 10.1 information. Wouldn't it be more like a software update much like DX 9 upgrading to DX9C. The directx 9 cards could still provide all the functions in hardware.

I hope its the same for directx 10 otherwise many people will be very upset if they have to all upgrade to direct x 10.1 cards so early.

 

Like me if that happens,
As long as i get a bit of Crysis playing before any upgrading is neccesery i dont really mind so much.
Il be going quad penryn and probably the new DDR3 intel mainboard end of this year.

 

That's why I'm waiting until there's a bit of a settling in the computer world.
I don't have the income to keep up with it all, so I figure there'll be a peak soon, and they'll ride that out, and then the next stuff will come out, and that'll peak. You just gotta keep up with the peaks.

 

Yes, you've got it.

 

Where's the DX10.1 info at?

 

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/directx/aa937787.aspx

Some of the features:

> Image quality improvements
HDTV quality, CG Movie Quality

>Art authoring pipeline
Can art cost be brought back in line with dev or design costs?

>User experience
More interaction: physics, AI, animation
Integration with entire PC architecture
Optical, hard disk, system memory, video memory

>Enable dynamic scaling
Of image quality vs performance

>Improvements for multi-core CPUs
>Parallel resource creation
>Resource creation on separate threads
>Resources, shaders, objects, command buffers
>Facilitates procedural content generation
>More parallel-friendly driver interface

 

This looks to be good times acomin'.

 

Well that's what you get for jumping on the band wagon too early, it's just like all the people who bought Vista to find it barely works with half their hardware and games.

 

Exactly.
I'm holding off for the peak, then I'll buy.

 

bullsh!t dude, 3dmark05 is 1024x768 no AA no AF, so if thats how you play games from 2 years ago then flippidy-doo. thats also how you test cpu overhead, run a game at low res, low settings to take the load off the gpu and that will show cpu overhead for the paticular game or app your running. graphics card rules games, once you throw on 4x-8x aa, 16xaf and high textures on a res above 1600x1200 only your graphics card can help you. you mistake benchmarks and numbers with real time running on the fly performance. and any modern socket ddr2 800 platform is far smooth enough to be complimented by an 8800.

 

Actually, your assertion is quite erroneous. You can never go wrong with having the most powerful video card available. It opens up higher resolutions and permits liberal use of AF and AA.

In addition, a X1950 Pro beats the 8600GTS in almost every game tested. Hell, my X1900XT(X) will annihilate any 8600 in DX9 games and it's well over a year old.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_8600_gts_preview/default.asp

Plus, you can get a X1950 Pro with 512MB of memory for the same price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150228

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161061

On top of all that, the 8600's pathetic 128 bit memory bus severely limits bandwidth whereas the X1950 uses 256 bit.

So, if you're looking for a good, inexpensive card and are only worried about DX9, stay far away from the 8600's. Quite frankly, they stink to high heaven.

Folks would be smart to wait until ATI releases their entire lineup in the coming weeks before making any buying decisions. Given how disappointing Nvidia's mid-range cards are, the door is wide open for ATI to come in and clean up. Will they do so? Who knows. But, competition always benefits the consumer so let's all hope that their new cards prove to be worthwhile alternatives so we can have ourselves a nice price war!

 

I'm assuming you don't have a compare URL? Futuremark is living in yesterday and still haven't updated their video card database to support the 8600GT/GTS yet.

 

not sure about 3dmark05, but on 06 i tried to see how the scores were between a stock e6300 (which i think is just a smidge better than an x2 3800) and my current OC at 2450Mhz..and just saw 3fps performance difference (at most) in the game tests

Oced the e6300 to 2800Mhz and increased the performance by 6 points more (versus stock)

assuming that the ff:

e6300 @ stock = x2 3800+ (or x2 4200+ at best)
e6300@ 2450Mhz = e6600 (or x2 5600+)
e6300@ 2800Mhz = e6700++

then the x2 3800+ isnt that bad for the 8800GTS considering the 3fps(max) diff than on an e6600

 

Thats the worst advice I've ever read.

 

Worst would be too harsh but yeah, saying 8800s are for C2Ds isnt correct..even an x2 3800+ is enough for an 8800GTS (youd get higher results with more powerful cards but the results from the x2 3800+ @ stock isnt even dissapointing..and who buys an X2 3800+ with an 8800 and wont OC it anyway (at least the ones who care about 3-5fps diffs)

 

Dude ... have some sleep ...

 

bottlenecking is so overrated. why would you prevent yourself from upgrading to a much higher video card? just b/c you have a low CPU that would bottleneck the heck out of it? NO! i mean, you'd still get an FPS increase in games especially when your previous card was on the low 7 or late 6 series cards. and eventhough you have bottleneck, just by upgrading your CPU to a faster one would still give you an increase in FPS because you alleviate that bottleneck. it's something that wouldn't happen if you just bought a so-so card due to your fear of bottleneck issues.

 

hehehe, jelle, ill trade you a 8600GTS for your 8800GTS then, hell ill even drive out to your place and pick it up

and i fully disagree with using 3dm as the main yardstick, it is a nice enough tool to gauge performance when OCing your card or something, but hardly reliable for cross card comparison

 

2nd.

3DMark is great for benchmarking and measuring overclocking/tuning performance on a particular system or card. However, you can't base a card's ability SOLELY on a synthetic benchmark.

Let's see that 8600GTS in some serious gaming stress tests.

Lets see F.E.A.R., Oblivion, Stalker, Riddick, Supreme Commander, etc. on maximum detail settings and high resolutions. THEN we can form a more solid opinion of how the G84 products are going to stack up.