8-core Zhaoxin KX-6000 Desktop x86 CPU Soon Available In China

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    warlord Ancient Guru

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    What's the point for someone to purchase this?
     
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    $620 is way too expensive for this CPU and mobo.

    If it would cost under $100 for CPU and motherboard, it can be used as budget PC. With current prices, I don't see a reason.

    Considering it's aimed for Chinese market, China can basically put higher tax on AMD and INTEL CPUs and force Chinese consumer to purchase national product.
     
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    Russian and Chinese government hate the idea of not having enough control over Intel Management Engine which is a small portion of the CPU with its own OS doing whatever.
    Same goes for AMD with their PSP.
    So, last year Russian federation announced a partnership with Chinese government developing their own OS Linux based and having also a hardware platform for it, they are separating themselves from whole world as in consuming what Intel and Microsoft are offering.
    Please, don't turn this in a political statement.
     
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    To support the motherland and not pay the Muricans? It would be good if the Chinese government would fusion all CPU maker, instead of having more like VIA/this/AMDcopyone/etc. So in this way, with via having x86 they could develop and provide improvements for it, to be a worthy opponent for AMD/Intel
     
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    Understood. I just lost my thoughts at this price tag I supposed it was more than what it is. But if there is a reasoning behind that move, either political or a fight against tech giants in a land with full quarter of humanity, I can see its point.
     
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    Not very attractive for end user at given price point.
     
  8. Kaarme

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    Considering how China grew into the world's second largest economy by beating everyone else with their prices and thus capturing a huge portion of the manufacturing industry, the pricing of this chip+mobo combo makes exactly zero sense.
     
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    As others said the main idea behind this one is security - they want to create something of their own without any backdoors.

    I know Russian government has some CPU's as well, which are very bad in terms of their performance, but they use them for government and military a lot.
     
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    The EU too is working on their own chip, late to the party, but they got their engineering samples. It's never about performance but about controlling the IP and security as far as possible.
     
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    The positive side of all this, maybe at one point some of this tech will get into the commercial sector. Or rather the experts that worked in the sector, might leave it and create something of their own in the consumer sector.

    The more competition there is the better for the consumer.

    But then again, AMD is doing a great work right now. Hopefully ARM will at one point in future join the fray.
     
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    This. It's not about the competition, it's about having control over IP and security.
     
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    One note. This thing isn't for you. Its for those who do not want US backdoors on their hardware and software.
    Is faster CPU than what most military gear are using and they do not plan to play games or run cinebench on it.
     
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    Easy for you to conclude after reading following replies :D

    Another note. Is military gear really using X86? Maybe something with more "RISC" wink wink.
     
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    I don't think that most of you know how it work "on the strange countries of the other side"... to have lived in ex est block i can tell you a thing: it's just like here, people are the same.
    600$ is also the price of industrial embeded board in here!!
     

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    Some friend of a friend working in Russian federation government.
    Not for the faint of heart, but deep inside their IT department there is a very strong desire to be hardware and software independent...
    And they pour real money into IT and by golly, Russian mathematicians and engineers really know what they are doing.
    Not praising the Motherland subculture, just observing and learning about if there is a will, there is a way.
    So this news falls into the careful plan of Chinese Russian fusion planned to separate from American 3 letters agencies.
    And inB4 government conspiracy: There is a fact plain as day that Microsoft products are not loved in RU and CPR. And Intel hardware follows in the trend.
    They are really doing something about it, and what you now see is what they let to be known, the rest is left to guessing, conspiracy and uncertainty.

    My opinions are NOT facts and I'll respect otherwise facts or opinions based on certain evidence.
     
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    Competition has to start somewhere. Of course it is not something I would by, but if people are not willing to be a guinea pig for new products, there will be less competition. China can probably force this product in some areas if they choose.
     
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    So if the zhaoxin cpu is using x86 architecture and all the normal standards the must have licenses for all that? It would be funnier if they had worked on a risc-v chip. Sometimes I feel there is no enough talk about that possible next mass architecture
     
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    and not to mention the crap complacency of Intel and M$, forcing clients to be beta testers (and sometimes alpha).
     
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    oh i remember huawei being dismissed just like this, equally laughable, look at them now
     

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