Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by repapips2004, Nov 22, 2005.
But theyre not are they!! 6800GT imo! :dave:
DrFreeze was right. The 6800GS AGP cards are NV40 cores with a locked quad.
The PCI-E version uses the NV42 core, which physically has 12 pixel shading units, a lower transistor count, smaller manufacturing process and a cheaper price.
yeah, my point was that somehow wolverine seemed to think you can have a chip with the 16 pipes of a nv40 and the extremely high OCability of a NV42, which you cant
basicly a AGP GS which is unlocked is 100% identical in config to a GT (save for the stock cooler maybe) and a PCI-e GS is a whole different beast
and my vote on the GS is just based on the fact i am very impressed with the NV42 core, even if it might not be able to perform up to the levels of a fully squeezed GT
They both r almost equvalent to each other as one have more pipes and other clock speed but same bandwith.........but price iz the main reason for people to buy GS.
(pushing the cobwebs aside)hell yeah.gs all the way.12 PIPERS RULE!
OK, lets throw the dirt back on top of this thread
I was the first one to reply to this thread, back when the GS first came out. Now I have owned both cards, and now realize with a little OC'ing the 6800 GS demolishes the GT.
On my old GT (XFX standard one) I managed to suck 425/1100 with no voltmodding but a VF700, and i got about 4800-5000 3dmark05 points. (but that was in my old Athlon XP rig, so its not really comparible)
Now with my 6800 GS, I got it from the 485/1100 stock (XXX Edition see here: http://www.guru3d.com/article/content/292/) to 530/1200 (I can hit 550 on the core for benchies, but artifacts when i gets to like 80*) and i've hit 6667 on 3dmark05. This is all done on the stock cooler/voltages. I can't wait till I can beef out some money for a silent performance VF700/VF900.
my 6800 gs clocks at 550/1300 with nvsilencer 5, and it obtained 3000+ at 3dmark06 !
for me the best buy of my life, together asrock dual sata2 and venice 3000+@2700 !
Damn, my memory won't budge over 1200... I NEED COOLING.
Nice clocks man.
GT with zalman u can run 425 on core and 1150+ on memory
there is no such thing as a PCI-E 6800 gs @16x6 :speed:
and the agp version has less voltage than 6800 gt so it clocks less ...
My ASUS 6800 GE (same specks as ultra but 12x5(unlocked to 16x16)) can reach rock stable 450/1280Mhz with a Zalman on the chip ... some of the 6800 gs (pci-E) reportedli breached 600mhz core ...
Gotta to stick to my 6800GS ... now clocked at 485/1100 can beat even an oc'ed 6800GT ... I almost reached 6k's with the following config .... while and oc'ed 6800GT can barely do that .... ANd i intend to oc the card soon .... the performance is really awesome ... and after the advent of the 7600GT's i really wonder. .. how much does pixel pipelines matter ???
So those no. really make a diff ??? So lets consider this :
A 6600GT @ 500 ... so 500*8 = 4000 Mpixel/s
and a 6600 @ 500 ... so 500*8 = 4000 Mpixels/s
So accordingly ... they should be equal performers .. Hmmm .. so are they ???
And from my experience ,,, with the stock cooling ... the 6800GT can hit 400 easily .. but beyond that is a bit of luck ...
So then ... for a 6800GT @ 400 MHz .... 400*16 = 6400
And even my 6800GS does 530 on air ... so in this case :
a 6800GS @ 530 MHz .... 530*12 = 6360 ...
Hmm .. almost same ehh ???
my 6800 GE (1,4v core stock and only 200$ last year) does 450mhz on air ... and has 16x6 <-
16x 450 = 7200
12x 530 = 6360
but theres also the 6 x 5 .. .theres pixel shaders and vertex shaders ... 6800 AGP and PCIE-GT are 16x6 ... 6800 gs PCI-E is 12x5 ... it has more mhz to compensate ? that depends
Anyway , this thread is pointless because there are much better cards now.
LOL whatever!!! Anyway lets just move on full-stop. 7900GTX512 all the way!
My 68GT has performed totally well with settings as high as I want. All I speak from is experience with these cards. If it was my choice NOW, I wouldn't even go GT or GS 68, Id look at the dollar value and go 79GT (or even 79GTX). But the 68GT and GS just keep up the fps so why change I ask myself ... and I dont. Let the suckers go the bank to withdraw their funds to waste on cards they dont need too or for the bragging rights ........
(waits for the Whaaaa's.)
I was kidding sry you did not read it that way, I have 7900 gt's and i agree on not looking to them now.
gt loses in the end, most of you are forgetting that the gt is 128bit and the gs is 256bit, i had a evga 6800gs and i flashed it with evga 6800ultra bios and that card was fast. 16pipelines, 500 core, and 1.35ghz memory at 44c idle and 75c max under full load at 6rhs of gameplay. the gs is the best value of the two, its less esspensive and performs right on the gt's ass, and the pny 6800gs owns the 6800gt because it comes stock with a 475 core! the pny 6800gs comes within spitting distance of a 6800 ultra.
gt is 128, to the best of my knoledge.
I think this has been said before but at stock 6800GT>6800gs, but 6800gs has more overclocking headroom...can everyone agree with that.
And we're talking about a reference 6800gs here, no adding those special brands which are superclocked, because its really unfair to compare one of those to a GT.
Ummmm excuse me my 68GT is 256bit!
[QUOTE='[LEF]... the pny 6800gs comes within spitting distance of a 6800 ultra.[/QUOTE]
... But I find that hard to believe!!
How can you compare the gs's value with a discontinused card?????
You can't go under the assumption that its still $300 or so.