do you know something we dont? cause so far the only thing shown to public was not really telling anything about overall performance, be it cpu or chipset nor sata/usb3/M2. and until i've seen more than 3 websites like guru or tom that reviewed it, i wont believe anything amd cares to say about zen (vs intel). @Alvaro66 and please dont forget about all the other things that didnt happen because we could, but decided not to do them. flying cars, nuclear vacuum cleaners, spam hasnt been fixed, and we still dont live on the moon..