Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce Drivers Section' started by Eviltoaster, Jul 20, 2020.
Thank You for all you do.
Can anyone tell me what the hell Nvidia are doing with their drivers?
My friend has a 3080Ti and a 5950X CPU. He was playing Metro Exodus Enhanced and whilst getting excellent frames his CPU temps were reaching 89C!!!! During gaming! Cyberpunk also was around 85C!!!
I noticed he was running stock Nvidia drivers and their were TONS and TONS of Nvidia instances running in the background (easily 10-12 processes).
I uninstall his drivers with DDU in safe mode and reinstalled them (stock). And his temps were still the exact same. So I downloaded this clean driver version and again ran DDU in safe mode and install them. Now he has only 2-3 Nvidia processes running in the background but now his CPU temps are 63C whilst playing Metro Exodus Enhanced with a max 74C spike only when loading the game up.
What could this of been? Geforce experience? Telemetry?
The drop in temps is pretty damn insane from just moving from stock to clean drivers. Will point out that his GPU the Asus TUF 3080Ti was running exceptionally well and pretty damn cool too with 65C max during about 2 hours of Metro much cooler than my 6800XT and over 2x the performance too.
But Nvidia seem to be doing something strange with the drivers as even after a clean install of the stock drivers the CPU temps were the same so it couldn't have been a setting my friend had accidently enabled.
Setup don't work, worse, tried official, extracted, when setup exe clicked, litterlly erased files and even folder itself !!
What the ? Will catch 511.79 again (edit, worked).
nothing, your friend should fix their airflow.
Processes Open =/= Processes doing things.
Fractal Design Torrent case with 2x 180mm fans at the front, 3x 140mm fans at the bottom, and a Noctua NH-D15 with 2x 140mm fans.
He has probably some of the best airflow much better than in my own case. His 3080Ti runs at 65C pretty much max the whole time when gaming. And his room is pretty cool as well not being in direct sun light.
Please explain to me why going from stock to clean drivers instantly seemed to reduce his temps by over 10C and why was there over 12-15 Nvidia processes running in the background?
Like I said we even clean installed the stock drivers and everything was the same, when we installed the clean drivers he only had 2 Nvidia processes running and his temps plummeted.
My only explanation is that he has never done a clean GPU driver install, he never even knew what DDU was. Or Nvidia messed something up somewhere.
Did he install on top without clean install selected in the past?
That might have triggered a borked installation between two or more major driver revisions, only a full cleanup can fix it at that point.
Yes he never did a clean install before, this is my only explanation. However we did a clean install with DDU with the stock drivers and his temps were still the exact same. Not until we clean installed these slimmed down drivers did his temps drop massively.
This is amazing... downloaded last version of DDU... installed this clean driver version and i was thinking that i messed something when changing the settings in the bios short before new driver installation... GPU and CPU idle Temp went down around 7-8C and 10-12C while Gaming. And everything feels 3 time faster. I had to lower my overclock settings within bios since my system started to work and boost like never before. How? What is exactly the difference? Since i had no geforce expirience installed before that cannot be the reason. Is it telemetry?
and if so then i will need to read a lot more about telemetry to understand this performance increase! But Thanks once Again!
Whatever performance changes happened, is not because of the clean driver.
There is zero performance difference between the clean and the normal driver, or if there is, it would be within the margin of error.
Maybe when you used DDU you also disabled other startup items that were hogging resources, maybe you made some BIOS changes like enabling XMP, maybe something else that increased your performance. But performance is not the reason people use the clean drivers.
i understand what you you say but if the clean driver is the reason for the temp. descrease would also mean that indirect the driver had an positive impact on system performance. Of course i do not expect to see a huge perf. difference from a original driver where one gets installed full and the otherone with only needed functions or without some features not needed but not having the possibility to not install them in the original file provided from the vendor.
Enabling xmp or something like that is not a reason since i extra used notepad++ and compared plugin to compare .txt files exported from the bios before and after so i can confirm that nothing was changed there. Same on the OS level.
Interesting, I'm always slimming the package down to only driver, nvcpl and physx.
Temperatures are always the same between clean installs, only seen it rise on the GPU once when I forgot to disable MSI Afterburner since it reverted to default settings instead of keeping my custom settings, never seen any changes on CPU temperatures.
Only thing I could think of would be GFE related or a bug which I didn't encounter, nothing else in the package should use enough CPU resources to make that much of a difference, not even the telemetry.
Why is there "undecrypted folder" in the archive?
I want version 512.77.
if you are cpu limited, yes driver cleaned can boost your performence because no telemetry in background etc... =) enjoy
LHR blocking present with clean driver?
Updated to v516.40
The archive only shows until 511.79 and everything else is "undecrypted folder".
May I request a link for 512.95 please? Thank you!
Hello. I can't see the 512.95 link in the archive too.
I would like to have the last driver of the previous branch.
Time for me to upgrade from 472.84 to 512.95. Seems to be a good one.
Can a good samaritain post the right link please ?
Thank you very much !
I guess we should try 516.40? :v
I guess too.
I'm on 512.15 and sharpning option is different than on 472.84. Nvidia did some tweaks on it seems to be enhance.
Now i have access to dldsr and its a good trick : i'm on a 1440p monitor and with dldsr it's like a sub 4k. Image quality definitively better at the cost of 1/4 - 1/3 fps.
Otherwise raw performance is quite the same as on 472.84.
But i would like to have 512.95...haha
Prefer the last of the previous branch than the first of a new branch...meh
Updated to v516.59