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436.15 WHQL GeForce Game Ready Driver

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce Drivers Section' started by Cyberdyne, Aug 27, 2019.

  1. uggis007

    uggis007 New Member

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    Does control have SLI functionality? Now its off topic but just curios. And what does you guys think, is it necessary to update the driver from 436.02?
     
  2. Martigen

    Martigen Master Guru

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    So everything you said above is incorrect. Sharpening has nothing to do with anything that might be in or "out of focus". You're confusing sharpening with Depth of Field (DOF).

    Also, sharpening isn't always full scene, there are depth-buffer (note depth-buffer, not Depth of Field) sharpening shaders that adjust sharpening strength based on the depth of the scene. You can utilise these with Reshade right now.

    Regardless, similarly DLSS has no knowledge of "what developers always want". DLSS operates at a substantial lower resolution and attempts to upscale while re-creating missing information in the upscale by utilising an AI-trained model that's been fed hundreds (if not thousands) of in-game scenes from a higher resolution. In theory, this should provide an decent approximation of rendering at a higher resolution, but with a reduced performance footprint. In practice, it's highly dependent on how the AI model has been trained, and this will be different for each and every game. Some games it may work well, others it will be terrible. It is not a silver bullet and never will be. It can never compete with actually rendering at a higher resolution (this is important for the next paragraph, below), and the returns are diminishing the higher the distance from the DLSS resolution you go.

    This is to say, as the Hardware Unboxed video demonstrated, DLSS is less effective than instead running at a higher resolution than DLSS (but below native still, since the goal here is to gain performance) while using a sharpening filter to compensate for the loss of detail by running at a lower resolution. As their testing found, this produces much clearer visuals (see the video -- it's night and day) for a similar performance boost compared to DLSS.


    Yep. And as the video shows, DLSS is noticeably worse for a similar performance gain.


    *facepalm*
     
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  3. Cyberdyne

    Cyberdyne Ancient Guru

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    I've only ever seen Alex test rtx with his personal 2080 Ti. Doesn't matter though, the performance should be consistent. That Nvidia graph is pretty accurate for my GPU. But it seems the point of contention for Alex and it isn't performance, it's visual fidelity.
     
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  4. pharma

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    I don't think you are much different than most with regard to perceived "visual fidelity" as interpreted by game reviewers. Probably why it's best to look at more than one review before drawing conclusions.

    I tend to stay way from reviews sites like Hardware Unboxed who have had NDA/censorship issues with Nvidia. I take their reviews with a "grain of salt", and prefer reading from neutral sites less likely to have a "bone to pick".
     

  5. Cyberdyne

    Cyberdyne Ancient Guru

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    @pharma
    Or just look at the many screenshots yourself. Or try it out like I did. You don't need someone to tell you how good or bad something looks.
    My opinion is my opinion. I like hw unboxed and DF just fine. But I know how to judge these things on my own.
     
  6. Liam Onestone

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    What I read here is game after game crashes with these drivers, not om my humbly MX150 all my games working flawless
     
  7. Memorian

    Memorian Ancient Guru

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    I had one crash in R6: Siege today after alt+tab.
     
  8. EdKiefer

    EdKiefer Ancient Guru

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    No crashes here but I don't play a wide variety of games, mainly BFx ones.

    I also use DX11 mode cause DX12 on maxwell is not great.
     
  9. garyb

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    Bad stuttering in PUBG using these drivers, 436.02 didn't have this issue. Decided to go back to 431.68(stuttering gone) and will wait till they fix there 436 drivers.
     
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    Threaded Optimization vs Low Latency Mode in this driver is deatached. People claimed before that Threaded Optimization is increasing input lag and was related to Pre-Rendered Frames, and that both should be set to off/lowest. Does it matter with current driver or are those things properly independent right now?
     

  11. Elajitz

    Elajitz Master Guru

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    ManuelG i still getting lagging loading screens & CTD in battlefield V DX12
    Everything freezes and go black nvlddmkm stopped responding and has recovered!

    the issue started 436.02 Driver and still happens in 436.15 Driver
     
  12. DLD

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    What used to be NVidia turned into nv*diots.
     
  13. sharathpr

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    So This artifacting issue on MK11 has been caused by NVIDIA fixing something related to HDR and failing to notify the developers of MK11 and who knows how many other games about it??! And now you have "notified" them about the lapse on your part and are promptly washing your hands off the matter??! That's it?!
    This issue, that's been there for 4 MONTHS now, is 100% YOUR FAULT and u need to take up a more active role and ensure it gets fixed!!
     
  14. Cyberdyne

    Cyberdyne Ancient Guru

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    I bet y'all scream at the retail worker when they ain't got your favorite brand of peanut butter. You can't yell at the grunt as if they represent the goings on of a company.
    I know you're just looking to give a face to your Mortal Kombat problem, and it's frustrating dealing with faceless companies. But ManuelG isn't Nvidia in human form.
    It you need a person to scream at, go on Twitter and tweet at Jensen Huang, he can take it.
     
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    Hello NVIDIA representative

    436.xx (436.02, 436.15, and 436.20) compared to 431.70 on VOLTA (titan V 12Gb, Titan v ceo 32GB)

    I'd like to report that the 436.xx series driver provides a 7-16% drop in performance on Vulkan titles such as New Colossus, Youngblood, and Strange Brigade (despite marketing that says this has increased performance through this driver).

    I also would like to report that SOTTR, ROTTR have a 3% -6% drop overall.

    UE4 titles have a a drop i performance thats within the margin of error, however, level load times in Hellblade, Echo, Absulov have incresed.

    Lastly, the game Control performance is really impacted when RayTracing is on (High and Low). Hoever it plays much faster and smoother on 431.70 (Also I run WITHOUT the blurring resolution reducing DLSS, so that is not in the equation)

    Reverting back to 431.70 returns performance and "normality".

    Please UNDO whatever is giving the massive hit in performance (security change, optimization for only one line of cards, etc) Also, before someone says the Titan V is not normally what is used for gaming - then why did you take it out of the quadro driver and put it in the gaming driver?

    THX in advance

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  16. sharathpr

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    I'm addressing Nvidia support team, not any particular person here. Unless you are from Nvidia yourself, I suggest u keep to your business & stay out of the matter.
     
  17. cricket bones

    cricket bones Master Guru

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    You posted on a public forum and get all pissy when someone responds to you? Are you new to the internet? Stop being an infant.
     
  18. garyb

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    Troll bait.

    Give the guy some slack.
     
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  19. Cyberdyne

    Cyberdyne Ancient Guru

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    You are addressing a person from the support team.
    I'd also like to remind you that the support team doesn't code a single line in the drivers. And even if they did, people typically do not respond well to being berated.
    I think you'll find that you get better and faster results by talking like an adult.
     
  20. fr3quency

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    What is this build? loled :D:D:D


    Edit: go for 2TB of RAM xD
     

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