400Watt PSU + GTX460 or GTX560 - ti?

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  1. SeekNDestroy

    SeekNDestroy New Member

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    Long story short I've searched all over google with mixed answers. I want to have another gaming PC (GF, friends that are over etc) with stuff I have laying around, don't really want to buy a new PSU or go all out to make it relevant. It's been running an 8800GTS 640MB card for ages now, and of course is nearly irrelevant the more games that get played on the rig.

    I've read the 460/560 recommends a 450w PSU.

    I have an intel i5 650 @ 3.2ghz, 8GB of midlevel/crap RAM, a 400W Delta Electronics PSU, and a 1TB ****ty Seagate HD in there. Nothing else - no other HD's no CD drives, it's just a slave/gaming backup machine. I think this was the original rig : http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/asus-essentio-cg5275-ar003/4505-3118_7-33964723.html

    Has anyone confirmed that a 460 1GB or 560 maybe a (ti?) would work in there - or something similar? Anyone foresee any problems occurring? Want to make sure before I or a friend snags a card... and I don't have a means of testing as I'm out of state right now.

    Thank you much for your time :)
     
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    On load the 560ti is only 10W more than the 460 1GB.

    I would get a good PSU before changing the video card.
     
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    I used to have a Delta PSU as well. They are'nt bad PSUs it's just that the GTX 460 is 160W and the GTX 560TI is 170W. The power of the
    i5 650 is 73W. If you put two and three together I would get a new PSU because the graphics card requires more power
    I think the amount of power you have will be on the edge slightly. I would recommend something that will last you a while and be future-proof for more upgrades.

    Get a power supply like this:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

    or this

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171031

    if your looking for something cheap, but not bad then I would go for one of those two.
    What memory are you using and how many HDDs/DVD/Cd drives?


    Here is a comparison in terms of specs for your reference:
    http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=632&card2=641
     
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  4. SeekNDestroy

    SeekNDestroy New Member

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    Stock, whatever came with it.

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    Looks like ASint 4x2 GB crap RAM.

    1 HD - Seagate 1TB, 1 stock fan on the mobo, (P7H55) or look up CG5275 info.

    The Delta PSU @ 400W

    NO CD Drives.

    I just figured a new(er) GPU + i5 quad @ 3.2ghz + 8GB of RAM (even if terrible) would do medium settings on some of the newer games that friends will want to play come summer time (community house style)
     

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    The new specs you have would be able to play the games you desire; however, I would be skeptical having 400W. I would personally buy a new PSU. You could try and see if your current power supply works. If you do buy a new graphics card be willing to buy a new PSU as well, just in case.
     
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    If I do my same rig on the newegg tool : http://images10.newegg.com/BizIntell/tool/psucalc/index.html

    My current setup with the 8800GTS is 375 recommended. With the GTX460 it's 406 to 414....

    Like it said it's never so much as blinked before. I had another HD in there, and a DVDROM back when the 8800 first went in.... hrmmm
     
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    yes, I recommend that tool. Whatever floats your boat dude. My answer is opinionated; however, I have experienced undercutting my needed power by a tad before.

    Also, if you were to buy a power supply 50W more, you would need to incrementally keep on buying more and more power supplies. I think you should by at least a 500W PSU instead of a 450W because:

    1. You're certain that your games will play/you're computer will turn on.

    2. If you ever overclock you will need more power.

    3. If you ever want to upgrade in the future you're set.


    In the end, buying something that may cost you will eventually pay itself off as opposed to constantly upgrading PSUs etc.
     
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  8. SeekNDestroy

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    Yar that was option two =/

    Like I said it's a summer rig for when people wanna LAN/GAME - there's like 8-9 computers here, and my rig is by far the most superior. I just want this one I listed to not suck as bad as some of the others here lol. I was just like "seriously, 400W PSU and it's going to be sketchy?"

    I just don't want anyone else to play having a goddamn 8800GTS - especially if it's a modern FPS lol. I always overkill my rigs for what I'm doing. I figured the GTX460 I could grab for easily under $100 somewhere and make the listed rig work with most any game....

    Kinda sucks being inbetween. My main rig kills everyone elses here, was hoping to maintain technological superiority ;)
     
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    GTX 560 Ti draws up to 200W, GTX 460 up to 160W.

    My Inter-Tech COBA 400W handled GTX 460 with ease, so your Delta should have no problem too. Though depends on exact model.

    In case you don't want to risk, instead of buying a new PSU, you could just buy a newer and more power efficient card. HD 7850 1GB costs about 170$ - pretty much the same as GTX 460 + new PSU would cost. HD 7850 has a power draw of ~100W. It's also faster than both GTX 460 and GTX 560 Ti.
     
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  11. elkosith

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    My 420 Watt PSU has been running a 460 SE, E7300, 2 hard drives, 1 optical drive and a sound card with no problems.

    i5 650's TDP is 73 watt, and if you add 160 watt for the 460 you still have around 100 - 130 watt headroom.

    So I think your 400 PSU is still OK for running a 460
     

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