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3DS MAX 9 performance in D3D - ATI x nV ?

Discussion in 'RivaTuner Advanced Discussion forum' started by Vykupitel, Nov 30, 2006.

  1. Vykupitel

    Vykupitel Member

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    Hello,

    I really want know which graphic card would be better in 3ds max 9 in D3D mode. My chooses are:
    nV based: Leadtek WinFast PX7950GT Extreme - G71
    ATI based: ASUS EAX1950XT - R580

    So are there any users of ATI and nV, that can give me some results from this?
    bmark4.rar

    Thanks
     
  2. Praxis

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    and also 8800GTS. THX
     
  3. Vykupitel

    Vykupitel Member

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    Test

    So I have tested some cards that we have in office. Could you please someone test any Geforce 7?

    [​IMG]
     
  4. okmijun

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  5. juodvarnis

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    i dont get it. is this frames per seconds int those fields? on what resolution you have tested those cards? havent you used maxtreme for max9?
     
  6. Vykupitel

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    Yes, these are FPS. Everything is in 1280x1024 (native LCD resolution) and in D3D mode. Without Maxtreme because it won't works in 64-bit version of 3ds max 9.
     
  7. willace

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    Which card is Quadro FX 4000 based on? Geforce 6 or 7?

    BTW X1900GT is really good, is 3d Max optimized for ATI cards?
     
  8. AlecRyben

    AlecRyben Ancient Guru

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    Quadro FX 4000 = 6800GT/Ultra AGP with 375Mhz GPU clock and 1000 memory clock.

    Max is not optimized towards any card - it just happens that ATI cards kick a$$ in D3D while NVIDIA seems to inflate SpecViewPerf OpenGL scores by cheating... ;)
     
  9. willace

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    Thanks for the info

    However, I still like NV more.
     
  10. loafer87gt

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    Here are the results from my QX6700 / 8800 GTX system. These are run at my LCD's native res of 1920x1200 using 3DSMax 8. As you can see, D3D appears much faster.

    =================================================
    Video Card: eVGA 8800GTX
    Display Type:Direct3D
    File Name | FPS
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    4viewports.MAX | 82.0345
    8direct.MAX | 607.903
    8omni.MAX | 581.395
    8spot.MAX | 533.333
    blitting.MAX | 1049.32
    dualplanes.MAX | 953.895
    geometry1.MAX | 426.743
    geometry2.MAX | 263.158
    multitex.MAX | 80.0
    rasterize.MAX | 640.205
    textured1.MAX | 521.558
    textured2.MAX | 176.6
    textured3.MAX | 198.807
    transpar.MAX | 326.797
    wireframe1.MAX | 19.2185
    wireframe2.MAX | 15.7505

    Comp High: 204.548
    Comp Low: 238.807
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    Video Card: eVGA 8800GTX
    Display Type:OpenGL
    File Name | FPS
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    4viewports.MAX | 29.9043
    8direct.MAX | 50.9944
    8omni.MAX | 51.2033
    8spot.MAX | 50.9944
    blitting.MAX | 695.571
    dualplanes.MAX | 839.161
    geometry1.MAX | 8.40242
    geometry2.MAX | 6.90147
    multitex.MAX | 76.1615
    rasterize.MAX | 77.5735
    textured1.MAX | 1170.05
    textured2.MAX | 124.883
    textured3.MAX | 183.891
    transpar.MAX | 45.9812
    wireframe1.MAX | 12.4275
    wireframe2.MAX | 10.202

    Comp High: 35.4016
    Comp Low: 109.19
     

  11. saurus3009

    saurus3009 New Member

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    hi

    Here are the results from my 6600 DUO 2 / X1950XTX 512 3DSMAX 9

    D3D TEST

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    Video Card: x1950xtx
    Display Type:
    File Name | FPS
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    4viewports.MAX | 63.9795
    8direct.MAX | 441.501
    8omni.MAX | 320.0
    8spot.MAX | 291.121
    blitting.MAX | 979.752
    dualplanes.MAX | 1003.76
    geometry1.MAX | 309.598
    geometry2.MAX | 174.622
    multitex.MAX | 1.98141
    rasterize.MAX | 467.29
    textured1.MAX | 279.018
    textured2.MAX | 137.599
    textured3.MAX | 154.607
    transpar.MAX | 200.0
    wireframe1.MAX | 16.3399
    wireframe2.MAX | 16.1621

    Comp High: 135.973
    Comp Low: 135.724
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    OPEN GL TEST

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    Video Card: x1950xtx gl
    Display Type:
    File Name | FPS
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    4viewports.MAX | 53.3333
    8direct.MAX | 346.021
    8omni.MAX | 327.869
    8spot.MAX | 291.121
    blitting.MAX | 355.534
    dualplanes.MAX | 441.42
    geometry1.MAX | 15.2866
    geometry2.MAX | 13.5208
    multitex.MAX | 1.59162
    rasterize.MAX | 383.142
    textured1.MAX | 686.185
    textured2.MAX | 70.7214
    textured3.MAX | 181.818
    transpar.MAX | 55.7538
    wireframe1.MAX | 17.8105
    wireframe2.MAX | 15.4591

    Comp High: 57.5875
    Comp Low: 111.886
    =================================================

    See the lines with the red color its strange ,may be do to the fact that i don’t have the 3dsmax4 map coz it kept asking me about missing maps
    during the test.

    Can some one tell me what went wrong?

    and by the way its my first post:bigsmile:
     
  12. spacefrog

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    here are my results - i managed to get almost ALL missing Maps by the way (substituted one) - so i think the ersults are not influenced by this....

    Note 1:
    First column Max9 D3D, second Max9 Maxtreme D3D, and third column (best results... Max 8 with Maxtreme (OGL), as you can see Maxtreme is STILL better than D3D - at least for me....

    Note 2:
    To get REAL good wireframe performance in Max9 D3D ITS CRUCIAL TO DISABLE BACKFACECULLING ON THE OBJECTS. This benchmark scenes have BF enabled, so the wireframetests can be FASTER in Max9 D3D by
    about factor 10 (just a guess) - this could easy be checked by loading the wireframe scenes selecting all objects and diabel BF in the properties dialog)

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    [FONT="Fixedsys"]]==========================================================================================    
    Video Card: MSI 6800GT -> Softquadro FX4000 | Geforce Driver Version: 97.44
    Resolution 1280*1024, 
    
    Display Type:               D3D       Maxtreme     Max8 Maxtreme (OGL) (Speed preset)
                                          D3D       
    File Name           |       FPS       FPS      |   FPS
    ================================================================    
    4viewports.MAX      |       125.471   142.248  |   228.311         
    8direct.MAX         |       291.121   224.719  |   312.012         
    8omni.MAX           |       203.252   216.92   |   213.447             
    8spot.MAX           |       168.35    177.778  |   213.22              
    blitting.MAX        |       483.637   500.0    |   872.854         
    dualplanes.MAX      |       328.947   566.706  |   862.689         
    geometry1.MAX       |       210.97    161.377  |   174.52              
    geometry2.MAX       |       122.299   100.0    |   39.5049             
    multitex.MAX        |       3.8301    0.94534  |   377.359             
    rasterize.MAX       |       331.675   328.192  |   441.306             
    textured1.MAX       |       287.466   335.57   |   420.875             
    textured2.MAX       |       105.374   122.474  |   79.5071             
    textured3.MAX       |       134.445   136.761  |   97.2763             
    transpar.MAX        |       200.0     179.727  |   53.5217             
    wireframe1.MAX      |       13.6271   18.9922  |   59.0784         
    wireframe2.MAX      |       13.1148   17.9276  |   30.4754         
                                                                                                  
    Comp High:                  107.382   106.015      141.864                               
    Comp Low:                   120.238   118.911      189.6     [/FONT]
    so im happy with my maxtreme results ;-)
     
  13. saurus3009

    saurus3009 New Member

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    Max 8 with Maxtreme (OGL) what is it mean?
     
  14. spacefrog

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    maxtreme is a special nvidia driver for 3DSMax - for nvidias professional
    workstation cards (Quadro). Up to Maxtreme for Max 8 it worked in an enhanced OpenGL mode - hence the "(OGL)", with Max 9 they started to use Direct3D for Maxtreme too - this sucks IMHO

    http://www.nvidia.com/object/maxtreme_archive.html
     
  15. Bluefirexp

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    Video Card: 8800GTS 640MB
    Display Type:
    File Name | FPS
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    4viewports.MAX | 100.0
    8direct.MAX | 456.621
    8omni.MAX | 457.666
    8spot.MAX | 426.439
    blitting.MAX | 605.693
    dualplanes.MAX | 673.59
    geometry1.MAX | 295.276
    geometry2.MAX | 164.114
    multitex.MAX | 2.79353
    rasterize.MAX | 429.553
    textured1.MAX | 309.661
    textured2.MAX | 113.766
    textured3.MAX | 136.166
    transpar.MAX | 213.311
    wireframe1.MAX | 126.316
    wireframe2.MAX | 65.09

    Comp High: 194.205
    Comp Low: 163.132
     

  16. okmijun

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    @Bluefire

    MAX 8 or 9?
    Which driver version?
    9x.xx or 100.xx?
    1280x960 or some biger res?
     
  17. Vykupitel

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    ATI Radeon 1950XTX,A64 5000+,4GB RAM:

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    Video Card: ATI Radeon 1950XTX
    Display Type:
    File Name		|		FPS
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    4viewports.MAX		|		125.471
    8direct.MAX		|		426.439
    8omni.MAX		|		320.0
    8spot.MAX		|		284.495
    blitting.MAX		|		650.759
    dualplanes.MAX		|		808.353
    geometry1.MAX		|		242.915
    geometry2.MAX		|		141.176
    multitex.MAX		|		0.211811
    rasterize.MAX		|		400.0
    textured1.MAX		|		246.144
    textured2.MAX		|		129.282
    textured3.MAX		|		175.809
    transpar.MAX		|		192.753
    wireframe1.MAX		|		16.5801
    wireframe2.MAX		|		15.894
    
    Comp High: 122.005
    Comp Low: 117.629
    
     
  18. Bluefirexp

    Bluefirexp Master Guru

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    My above score was @1280x1024 and an Athlon X2@2650mhz....D3D Display all triangles Enabled! Driver version 100.87 and 3D Studio Max 9.

    And now my brand new scores with a E6300@3.2Ghz and my VGA not overclocked :cops:

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    Video Card: Core2@3200_stock8800GTS 640MB
    Display Type:1280x1024

    D3D Setting: !!!DISPLAY ALL TRIANGLES!!!


    File Name | FPS
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    4viewports.MAX | 123.153
    8direct.MAX | 641.026
    8omni.MAX | 581.395
    8spot.MAX | 511.509
    blitting.MAX | 1109.88
    dualplanes.MAX | 1137.98
    geometry1.MAX | 426.743
    geometry2.MAX | 255.973
    multitex.MAX | 7.12708
    rasterize.MAX | 633.312
    textured1.MAX | 479.846
    textured2.MAX | 158.04
    textured3.MAX | 203.832
    transpar.MAX | 313.676
    wireframe1.MAX | 122.249
    wireframe2.MAX | 65.09

    Comp High: 264.099
    Comp Low: 236.871


    And now with disabled setting in D3D (Display all Triangles):

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    Video Card: Core2@3200_stock8800GTS 640MB
    Display Type:1280x1024

    D3D Setting: !!!DISPLAY ALL TRIANGLES DEACTIVATED!!!


    File Name | FPS
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    4viewports.MAX | 85.3242
    8direct.MAX | 641.026
    8omni.MAX | 555.556
    8spot.MAX | 533.333
    blitting.MAX | 1116.07
    dualplanes.MAX | 1137.44
    geometry1.MAX | 436.681
    geometry2.MAX | 255.973
    multitex.MAX | 7.70119
    rasterize.MAX | 633.714
    textured1.MAX | 479.846
    textured2.MAX | 157.048
    textured3.MAX | 206.441
    transpar.MAX | 320.102
    wireframe1.MAX | 24.6144
    wireframe2.MAX | 23.5868

    Comp High: 202.83
    Comp Low: 206.061
     
    Last edited: Apr 4, 2007
  19. okmijun

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    future belongs to 8800GTX, definitly.
     
  20. Vykupitel

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    It was on X2 6000+, 4GB RAM, WinXP 64-bit and MAX9 64-bit in D3D

    4viewports.MAX | 66.5779
    8direct.MAX | 638.978
    8omni.MAX | 673.401
    8spot.MAX | 638.978
    blitting.MAX | 908.815
    dualplanes.MAX | 829.302
    geometry1.MAX | 479.233
    geometry2.MAX | 242.718
    multitex.MAX | 0.258894
    rasterize.MAX | 554.324
    textured1.MAX | 289.799
    textured2.MAX | 151.745
    textured3.MAX | 208.333
    transpar.MAX | 256.937
    wireframe1.MAX | 21.3645
    wireframe2.MAX | 20.5606

    Comp High: 170.488
    Comp Low: 142.374
     

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