3dmark07 to be dx10 only

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  1. John Dolan

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  2. Vinnie

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    Good news in my opinion :)
    Like he said: "There's no reason to go backwards" :)
     
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    Yep I agree with vinnie.
     
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    It wasn't enough nobody took the 3dmark scores into consideration anymore, now they had to make it completely useless. What do i care about the DX10 power of a card? It's not like I can do anything with it yet.
    This only makes sense if they plan to release 3dmark07 sometime in Q4 when Crysis (and hopefully a couple other DX10 titles) will be out.

    I, for one, only use 3dmark when switching drivers to check the performace. If it's about the same, everything went well. So it would have been nice to have one benchmark to check both DX10 and DX9, instead of having two programs installed.
     

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    Yay, can't wait for this :D
     
  6. John

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    3DMark has always been ahead of games in terms of using new technology. It makes perfect sense that this will be DX10 only. It's also about time we get something we can measure DX10 peformance with. I'm really eager to see how the G80's and R600's stack up in DX10 - until that happens we have absolutely no idea.
     
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    Great find john,
    to be honest it might help dx10 games.why? hows that?
    cus nv and ati always have thier drivers optimised for futuremark 'games'
     
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    OpenGL...please :(
    Some people don't want vista...
     
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    It might be DX10 "Only" but you should still be able to run the benchmark with DX 9 cards. The overall score won't be as good as the DX10 cards but thats to be expected
     
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    I really hope that the performance will be awesome :)

    You can download the nVidia Direct3D SDK 10 if you want to see how a 8800 card performs in DirectX10, but this is not a Game, so we'll have to wait and see :)
     

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    According to Nick it will be DirectX10 only, you will need Windows Vista and a DirectX10 capable card to run the next 3D Mark ;)
     
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    I think that it is will pretty much same thing when 05 was released. I highly doubt that they do any DX9 game tests. It will mot likely be fully DX10.
     
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    God, I really don't want to upgrade to Vista.
     
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    I agree with those of you that say that the tech steps must be "ahead". But making an ONLY dx10 bench test is purely and obviously a marketing trick. I wouldn't be surprised to see the M$ (water)mark someplace in the software.

    And, really, why not make it both dx9.0 and dx10? Not because MOST of the gamers own and will still own this year a dx9.0 GPU - tho' this reason should be enough - but out of pure technical reasons. So that we can REALLY see the differences between the two of those and, most importantly, the gain of PERFORMANCE we should see in dx10 applications. Hmm... ?! How can you apreciate or evaluate a new technology if you are not able to compare it with present day or past technology?!

    Anyway, I'm not "playing" 3dmark so I care little about this transformed marketing tool that has managed to fool - so nicely - lots of people.

    Edit.

    Yep, I was sure M$ had his nose in. Hehe. Pathetic.
     
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    3DMark07 will be DX10 only because if people will be able to visually compare DX9 and DX10 rendering paths easily, they will probably see that the differences are negligible at best thus making the whole "DX10 is soooo much better" marketing fall into water.
     

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    Alec what are you looking at? Even with my apprehension to upgrade to Vista, I still have to admit that the DX10 screenshots we have seen look ten times better than anything DX9 can put out. Not to mention, these screens are in the infancy of DX10, imagine what it will look like a year from now. Think about what the first DX9 games looked like compared to Call of Juarez and STALKER.
     
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    Well i think that this is great news to gurus that have spent there hard earned money on 8800 cards and vista.Now with the launch of r600 we can compare dx10 performance between cards.Sometimes its hard to be at the bleeding edge of new tech its expensive and frustrating at times but i enjoy using it and im willing to pay the price and go through the pain to use it now.Im always amused by the guys that say dont bother just wait nuthing uses dx10 no games out ect ect they like to point fingers and laugh when we have driver problems ect.They might laugh now but they will cry when we are playing crisis in dx10.3d marks have always used the latest tech available and push it to the limits and im glad they do.You know if it wasn't for guys like us that buy the new tech well then there would not be any.
     
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    What actually makes 3dmark so taxing on systems anyway? What engine does it use?
     
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    Check out this document mate :)
     
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    Yeah, I have noticed that Alec for some reason hates Vista. "Treat Alecs Vista comments with contempt", they are not objective.
     
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