Considering my non-oc RTX 2080 Ti could manage 9574 Points in Port Royal using a i7-4770k lol or 10,250 with my i7-10700k and all the other benchmark scores are all behind by a decent margin. If those 3070 scores are correct, that is a bit odd. Even the mean scores of the RTX 3080 are only 5% off the RTX 2080 Ti's .. https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/34598063 As for pricing I paid $1200 AUD for mine new back in Sept 2018 and the 3080s are going for a fair bit more $ over here in Aus. The RRP sure didn't translate. I ain't no old card fan boy, as I am keen for an upgrade, since I game at 4K, HDR and all the goodies on.. but the comparisons Nvidia provided using a 250w limited 2080ti (mine is 338w) seems almost fraud to make an announcement in his kitchen that even the 3070 is faster.. Also, that Doom Eternal Comparison, I ran the same intro part where you meet the boss @ 4K maxed and even with HDR on (they didn't) and on avg was 20-30fps faster than what ever 2080Ti they used and within 1-15fps of the 3080. Leather Jacket man - you have hurt some feels and some bro's. Have friends who ordered the cards pre-release and still haven't got a 3080. :/ poor bastards.