3600 vs 3700x

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by apoklyps3, Mar 25, 2020 at 5:05 AM.

  1. apoklyps3

    apoklyps3 Member Guru

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    I'm trying to decide between 3600 and 3700x for a new build and while I know they are about on par in gaming I was wondering if 3700x is worth the extra 140$ it's costing right now(according to prices in my country).
    My workloads include some video encoding & photoshoping from time to time. might start some blender works too.
    do the 2 extra cores worth 140$ more money?
    I see talk about future proofing, but what future proof are we talking about with chips comming every year, each with important gains in performance.
    thanks in advance
     
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    Caesar Maha Guru

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    If you're just gaming I'd say 3600, anything more and it's upto you between 3700x and 3900x imho that's up to you.
     
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    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    Money/performance ratio 3600
    Gaming 3600
    Mixed workloads 3700X

    And btw, it is 2 cores 4 threads plus with the 3700X.
    I was in the same situation in January/February. And I ordered a 3600 and had buyers remorse, I upgrade rarely so 3700X was more "future-proof" for me. Sent back the 3600 and got the 3700X.
    But this is my decision, yours could be different.
    Now the whole Ryzen 3000 portfolio is discounted, it should be easier for you to pick one CPU, whatever it may be.
     
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    Undying Ancient Guru

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    Both upcoming gaming consoles are 8core similiar to 3700 so games can and will make use of it.
     

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    apoklyps3 Member Guru

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    PC games are not optimized like the console versions. don't believe that's a good argument.
    thanks to all for the replies. too bad in my country the discounts on ryzen 3000 series are not the same as in US
     
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    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    Where are you located?
     
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    Undying Ancient Guru

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    Both chips are discounted in Serbia.

    3600 175€
    3700 280€
     
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    Turanis Ancient Guru

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    For Ryzen 3700x+ based system he needs a good cooling case with 3-4 120mm fans and,obvious,good cpu cooler.
    Just for gaming Ryzen 3600 & 16 GB 3200MHZ RAM are very good choice.
    For encoding and Photoshop then Ryzen 3700x+ is very useful choice.
     
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    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    Frate!
    Bro, use Amazon.de and they will deliver. Maybe with some delay, but it will be.
    No idea about the borders and transportation...
    And in Germany the Ryzen is discounted.
    Another tip...find someone working at Amazon...and ask (trade, barter) for their employees discount code. Should add a nicely -10% off the price. It has to be sold directly by Amazon.de in order to be able to benefit from the code.
    I am doing this for years now, and saved a heap of money this way.
    PS: if you receive the parcel, disinfection is mandatory nowadays. Be safe.
     
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    The Wraith Prism is more than capable of cooling a 3700X. Been using it on mine since launch and have not had a problem. Perhaps I miss 100 or so MHZ in hardcore AVX workloads but that's about it. Still hit an average of 4.2-4.3 all core in games which is probably the top for my chip even if it were manually Ocd.
     
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    Stock coolers for either are capable if a bit audible at times (though I wouldn't say ever obnoxious). It shouldn't be louder than game sounds though, unless it's broken in some way.
    3700x for content creation is blissful (use it here, almost nothing can make this thing crawl, I was joyfully amazed).
    For gaming purchase one of the following chips from worst/cheapest to best/more expensive:
    1600 AF 85$ (skip AE chips) This requires a recent BIOS version, and is a slightly under-clocked 2600 12nm chip.
    2600 100~150$ price varies
    2700X 125~175$ or 3600 150~200$ 3600 is slightly quicker per core than 2700x but the 2700x has 8 cores vs 6. If you stream games an 8-core will take you further with a better minimum fps/more consistent fps range
    Past this is a point of diminishing returns once you hit the 3600.
    Do not go over the 3600/3600x if only gaming and web surfing, you'll gain nothing from more than 6 cores / 12 threads unless you have software to actually make use of it.
    You do not need x570 and PCI-express 4.0 if you're on any semblance of a budget, unless you plan to keep the system for half a decade without upgrading the motherboard. A system with an X570 motherboard will not be noticeably faster than one with a much cheaper B450 motherboard. That said, it's easier to get fast RAM running on the X570 as the memory trace lengths (between CPU socket and RAM slots) are physically shorter, making tighter timings easier to get. Just don't lose sight on the whole budget thing here, your lack of buyer's remorse will thank you in the long run.

    For those that do everything and as-above mentioned content creators and like to leave everything open while they work, however, a 2700x/3700x is a great place to start for a system that wont bog down. Make sure you supply enough RAM and get memory sticks that can do at-least 3000mhz CL-15 or at-worst 2933mhz CL-16 or better to make it worth it, otherwise (unless good ram costs double what 2666mhz stuff does!) you're leaving a bit of performance on the table. 16GB is considered a minimum on a gaming machine today, as 8gb systems are slowly being put out to pasture by today's open-world physics-heavy environments in games.

    Don't forget an SSD for at-least your OS and some of your commonly used games. Most folks won't notice the difference between m.2 NVME drives and Sata drives, but just make sure to get an SSD of some decent sort for the system. 500gb crucial MX500 SSD's can be had for a pittance and are fairly peppy as far as SSD's go, and is a good all-rounder.
     
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  13. apoklyps3

    apoklyps3 Member Guru

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    I already own an CM hyper evo 212, but guess what it's the version that doesn't have AM4 bracket.
    Tried to see if I can find it on aliexpress, but no :(
    too bad. it has served me well
     
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    I have owned 3600X and 3800X and to be honest there is not a lot of difference between the two.Maybe gain a couple FPS in a couple games and save 20 seconds on an encode of around an hour ,which sucks compared to encode on GPU which can do it 10X faster.Not noticeable at all.
    I am an idiot I will be buying more AMD Ryzen 3900X and even a 3950X if I find one cheap enough,just to play with.
     
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    thank you for the responses.
    just ordered a 3700x, asus B450-f gaming and 2x8 AData 3200MHz cl16
     
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