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2K and Hangar 13 Mess up Mafia III release with dumb 30 FPS cap

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Oct 7, 2016.

  1. Quicks

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    How do game developers, make the same mistake over and over do they not read what people have to say or are they so ignorant on what is going on around. I see this at least 3-5 times a year that people complain about the same S... I would have thought by now it would have sorted this issue out?

    It should be: Albert Einstein said the definition of insanity is doing something over and over again and expecting a different result.
     
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    can't see^...all images here must be 31fps or faster to view/...lol
     
  3. robintson

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    Completely agree with the "retarded cap crap" wording from -H. They need to respect PC gamers as they do respect console gamers and to make proper ports to PC without standard console 30 fps limits.
     
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    kosh_neranek Master Guru

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    I really hope that at least 70% of PC pre-orders will ask for refund.That is the only way developers will start listening. Take their money away from them guys! Also share this news everywhere you can.There still are many PC gamers who aren't tech savvy.This is beyond ridiculous. Also I have to say I am happy I stopped preordering 2 years ago with the exception of any DOOM,QUAKE or C&C if we ever gonna get another :) Mafia 3 would surely be a title I was planing to buy. But after this I'll just wait for them to repair it and hope that somebody will crack it afterwards so I can download it virtually spit in 2Ks face
     

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    Congrats to all those who acted on this, either by complains, refunds or whatever means they used.

    Especially the ones who had pre-ordered the game. THAT'S HOW you vote with your wallet. :thumbup:

    That's will teach/make a lot of companies think twice/thrice about their products/services offered when people start requesting refunds or backing out.


    lol!

    Fixed btw. :p
     
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  6. Witcher29

    Witcher29 Maha Guru

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    Wait till u have your new asus screen u say otherwise :)
     
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    lmfao...
    I meant to say, in a lengthy way, to all those who doubt the foreseeable difference of 60fps over 30, just go into google and hit 'ufo test' in the search and just enter the first link, i can't link directly since i don't have the points in the forum system.
    Then if the professors still can't see the difference, we can all recommend our goto optometrists.

    Hopefully i made my post clearer now :)
     
  8. Dch48

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    One problem, things DO NOT look like that at 30fps. 30 fps is perfectly smooth in Forza Horizon 3 for example. There is no stuttering or ghosting whatsoever. That so called test is obviously rigged.
     
  9. XenthorX

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    Hilbert was pissed, i can tell you that xD.
    30 FPS cap is freaking lame, even Batman arkham Knight didn't went that deep into bull****t.

    Never played any Mafia game in my life, i don't even know what this franchise is about, is it some kind of GTA or something?
     
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    Clearly whats rigged is your opinion... that test by the way, and that website is used by professional monitor reviewing websites like tftcentral.

    But i guess for some folks blue always gonna be red :thumbup:
     

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    Racing game? 30FPS acceptable? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM,
     
  12. PrMinisterGR

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    Kinda is, actually
     
  13. kakiharaFRS

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    I can read street names as clearly as the text you are reading now (it's killing my eyes tough as they must go left to right really fast..like trying to read a name on a formula one)
    http://testufo.com/#test=photo&photo=toronto-map.png&pps=1920&pursuit=0&height=0
    that's what 120fps+ULMB can do

    they did a good job on FH3 with their 30fps and the reason why you think it looks great is because it's a REAL 30fps with zero dropped frames or glitches, something almost no game ever does it's those glitches, drop in framerate or disappearing frames (your fps counter can say 90fps but in reality it looks like 20) that give stuttering and that blurry mess
    try to turn the camera in GTAV on a x360 and you'll see what I mean it looks like a diaporama if there are more than 15fps I'm the pope

    the patch is already out btw 60fps yes :) but it doesn't fix the rest of the problems, I watched a live stream and they explained the game had a troubled developement with changes in staff and company, if you work in a big company or industry you know it's not possible to work correctly in those conditions and the game clearly suffered from it.
     
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    and then you look at Gears 4 and how its such a glorious PC port ANNNND its on UWA too which is just baffling. Sure the game looks graphically terrible in a lot of areas but it has massive options tailored for the PC, uncapped fps, fov slider, res up+down scaler, even has settings for async and tiled resources, etc.

    Not to mention it runs butter smooth.
     
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    Wrong! It's 60fps actually. But the rest of what you said is completely true. 144Hz/fps is completely noticeable between 30fps and even 60fps too.

    http://nerdist.com/your-brain-has-a-frame-rate-and-its-pretty-slow/
     

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    Can someone ban the "eye can't see blah blah" trolls, please?
     
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    People sure get pretty upset real easily these days...

    Yes, I get it, a 30FPS lock on PC is stupid, annoying, and generally should be avoidable. But why is everyone so worked up over this? This is a regular occurrence for PC gamers. If there is a game intended to be played with a console controller, there is a good chance it is going to have some sort of crappy PC port. Obviously, there are exceptions or else we'd never get anything playable.


    Remember - you don't just speak with your wallet. Would you rather have a game that plays at 30FPS or no game at all? When you demand refunds and act hostile, you're not encouraging companies to make PC games. The console players get the same experience and they don't complain. In the eyes of the developers, that makes PC a very unappealing market, especially considering there are a lot less of us even though we're more demanding. I understand that we're not going to get a "PC experience" if we don't say anything, but there's a better way of going about it.

    Also seriously, stop pre-ordering AAA titles. I don't know how many times people need to be reminded that if you're pre-ordering a AAA game, you're doing more harm than good.
     
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    Console players dont complain because most dont know better. Most have a $500 1080p tv with low PPI, sit 6+ feet from the tv. They paid $400 or less for a gaming box.
    Not $1200+ for a PC before a $700 monitor to play the game.
    We pay for an experience that is rewarded by what we built.

    This is like building a 800hp race car for $12k, but only to go 30 mph because thats the track that was built for us while they promised a track that could do 60.

    The amount of cancelled pre orders shows people are pissed off.
    Many will not be buying the game either.
    People pre order the game for what ever bonus they want.
    Pre ordering did not use to be a bad thing.
    Some wanna play it the second it drops.
    Not everyone can wait long time to download these large games to play once its released.


    Just curious about developers view on PC.
    Because most of them dont really come out to the PC community as it is.
    Most publishers piss on the PC community with BS pr arguments and statements for their half ass reasons why the developer was not allowed to do what a damn game developer should be allowed to do.
     
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    I was waiting for this game since 2011... and now this moronic 30FPS. I plan to buy two 1080... and what is the point to do that if they don't fix it? I cannot buy yet! Ridiculous situation!

    I wonder who decides to implement this kind of stupid things I've also seen before with other games. When we almost sell our mothers to buy our expensive gaming rigs, how is it possible that in 2016 someone decides that the best feature for PC gaming is 30 FPS. I cannot understand this. They will lose a lot of money. They are shooting their own foot like idiots.
     
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    You may be right! :D
     

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