280.19 BETA vcore increase on GTX580?

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  1. xaudiox

    xaudiox Member Guru

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    And what step did you set it at ?
    The voltage range for 3D on default bios is 5 steps (for the GTX580)
    Try the same for your modded bios, if it is the same try decreasing it.

    Its just a thought, just trying to help.
    Seems strange that un-modded bios'es are ok.
     
  2. rewt

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    If this is really a bug, I don't think we will see a 280.19 WHQL release (as they were preparing). But I could be wrong, NVIDIA has released severely bugged drivers as WHQL before... (no thanks to Microsoft)
     
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  3. HeavyHemi

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    Another interesting tidbit is that it also increases the low power 2D and 3D voltage by one step as well even though those are not touched when modifying the BIOS. Merely reinstalling an earlier driver revert the voltages back.
     
  4. Fr0stx

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    Wonder if this could be due to using the same value in the voltage range.

    I used:

    P0: 1.000-1.000
    P8: 0.825-0.825
    P12: 0.825-0.825

    If Nvidia is adding 0.0013v to lowest value in the range, than using 1.000v-1.000v would add end up with 1.013v since the lowest and highest are the same. Will do some test with 5 step range to see if it fixes the thing.
     

  5. xaudiox

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    This is what i mean by voltage range.
    "Setting 2" is your 3d clocks, value 0 and value 1 should NOT be the same, you need a voltage range.
    Might be worth checking your modded bios.

    This is taken from an unmodded bios (evga GTX 580) and has a 5 step voltage range for the 3d clocks.....

    [​IMG]

    My modded bios has only a 2 step range..

    [​IMG]

    Hope this helps as i have no problems with voltage changes in the new driver.
     
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  6. Fr0stx

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    From these image, youre setting 0 is 0.963v both 1 and 2. So at IDLE (2D) did you check youre voltage with Nvidia inspector or GPU-z? if this is right, you might have a 0.013v increase... Like I have.
     
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  7. xaudiox

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    Ahh right now i see it, in GPU-Z no change but in NvInspector i see an increase of 1 step in 2d (0.975v) and 3d mode (1.113v). (never thought of trying NvInspector)

    Just done a quick stress test and my temps and fan speed are the same as usual so i'm not to bothered.
     
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    GPU-Z shows the VRM voltage which normally at idle should be 0.955. Inspector and Afterburner show the core voltage which is one step higher at 0.963. Picks or it didn't happpen....LOL

    [​IMG]
     
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    You don't need a voltage range , there are a lot bios versions like the point of view GTX570 TGT series that got no offset value.
    Look here , default bios of the Point of View GTX 570 TGT Ultra Charged:
    [​IMG]

    The point is that there is a problem with voltage settings on some cards with driver 280... Not that it blow up your card but I think that it is worth saying to nvidia and that is what I did.
     
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    Yup. I only added that screen shot to show I still had the same issue after adding in the 'voltage step'. So for me, step or no step, makes no difference.
     

  11. xaudiox

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    The OP has got a 580, all 580's have a voltage range.
     
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    and its not only on gtx 580 i have the same problem but the temps dont go high so i guess that nvidia knows what they do i guess
     
  13. xaudiox

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    Yep, your right, its GPU-z that confused me as its showing 1 step lower :bang: lol

    [​IMG]
     
  14. HeavyHemi

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    Bah...here's an update from ManuelG on this...frankly doesn't make a lick of sense to me...

    Quick update on the changes in the way the voltages are being reported in GPU utilities. This is not a bug and actually corrects the way the voltage is communicated to 3rd party GPU utilities. The older drivers (pre-R280) had a couple bugs which didn't round the voltages in the Perf and CVB tables to the board values in the SW caches of the Perf and CVB tables. When those values were actually applied to the HW, they were rounded up to the correct board values. The new 280.19 driver fixed that issue to make sure that the code only cached the true board voltages. However, in both cases the values which are applied to the GPU are the same so the only difference is the voltage that is displayed to the user. The actual GPU voltage has not changed from 275.50 to 280.19. We have verified this ourselves.
    http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=206522&st=160&gopid=1273751&#entry1273751

    If this were the case, wouldn't we all be reporting that the voltage readings had increased? I don't think so Tim...
     
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  15. Darren Hodgson

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    I do not see any change in the reported voltage on my GTX 580. I have not modified the BIOS in any way either. At idle 2D speeds the voltage is 0.963 V the same as it was with the earlier 275.xx drivers and the 3D voltages appear to be the same too, 1.000 V, as far as I can tell.
     
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    Do you mean " do not see" ?
     
  17. Darren Hodgson

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    Yes, sorry, Mufflore. I'm half asleep at the moment. I've edited it now to avoid confusion.
     
  18. xaudiox

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    Yea, its only affecting modded bios as far as i know .
     
  19. chinobino

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    I have 2 GTX 580's with modded BIOS.

    My MSI GTX580 has a VID of 1.013 V (for 3D clocks) and has NOT increased at all with the 280.19 driver.

    My LEADTEK GTX580 has a VID of 1.000 V (for 3D clocks) and it has now increased to 1.013 V with the 280.19 driver.

    Both cards have a reference PCB.

    Not sure what to make of it...

    When I click reset on Afterburner both cards get set to the same voltage now so I'm not too concerned.

    I modded the fan speed range to be 30% - 100% and increased the max voltage to 1.213 V
     
  20. andressergio

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    its weird what u say my both 580 EVGA are 1v vid...but honestly this 280 are crap and so new physiX made my OC gone...i went back and im ok now 980/2200 on 1,163 on NF200 and 1,188 on native x8x8 on Maximus Extreme Formula 4

    cheers to all
    Sergio
     

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