2700X to 5600X worth it?

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  1. ProfBP

    ProfBP Maha Guru

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    So I’m wondering if it is worth it for me to swap out the 2700x I currently have for a 5600x. I’d be keeping my current ASUS 470x board, 3200mhz RAM and cool the 5600x with my existing Noctua D14.
     
  2. Undying

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    In a normal world yes but as today its a tricky question. Problem is that 5600x is a over 300euros right now, thats nuts. Im also still using 2700x but i kinda want that 5800x atleast before i upgrade but again those prices...
    If you are at 1440p and gaming i think its fine. Im also keeping mine for now and going after a gpu (if thats even possible).
     
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    Yes it would be worth it. But yea prices are still fubar.
     
  4. ProfBP

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    I’m able to get it for $300 USD at a local micro center (I think).

    I do game at 1440p.

    I looked at the 5800x, but I have reservations about being able to cool it with the D14. Plus 2-3% increase in performance for $150 more doesn’t strike me as a good deal.
     

  5. Astyanax

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    the D14 will have no problems cooling a 5800x
     
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    You have to remember that a D14 is made to run on an intel cpu too which is way hotter than the new AMD cpus. I have a 5600x and its the best gaming cpu I ever bought. Clocks to 4650 All the time.Never have to manually overclock.
     
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    Nah. You're fine. Wait and see if AMD will release a 5700X this year, then it might be worth it, depending on price. For current games you're fine, and upcoming games might actually make better use of the 8 cores on your CPU. And with most modern games you're GPU limited anyway. Nobody plays at 1080p with graphics set to minimum :p

    I upgraded to a Ryzen 3700X system last month (from an old Sandy Bridge 2500K.) 5600X looks like it's so not worth it to me. €360 (that's $430) for a 6-core CPU... Are you kidding me? I'll take the 8-core at €290 any day of the week. Cheaper and more future-proof.
     
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    I had the 2700x and I have the 5600x which in multithread applications has the same performance as the 8 core 2700x :)
    also the difference in singlethread applications is chaotic in favor of 5600x and finally the Νoctua you have is fine for the 65 watts of 5600x
     
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    Unless one is playing cs go at 1080p you wont notice that singlethread increase so much. Playing at 1440p max details the difference diminishes in most games.
     
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    my 2700x maxed out 4.450@all cores with 2070 oced +95 core - 525 mem Screenshot 2021-02-05 220405.png
    5600x 4.750@all cores with 2070 oced +95 core - 525 mem Screenshot 2021-02-05 220711.png

    the difference diminishes at 4k
     
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  11. Undying

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    Well that just proves 2700x is holding up pretty well and thats one of the most singlethread dependent games.
     
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    2700x + ryzen calculator = very good processor
     
  13. ProfBP

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    Well I picked up the 5600X, updated my bios, and dropped it in. Aside from my cooler cutting my fingers up, it was pretty painless!

    It was entertaining at the shop to have to explain that yes, my X470 can work with the new Ryzen. I love AMD for that.

    I’m seeing heathy improvements across the board. In MSFS, the CPU is just trucking along. I can fly tubeliners now without my FPS being in the upper teens low twenties.

    Now about that GPU... the search continues.
     
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  14. bobblunderton

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    Astyanax is right, a D-14 will have ZERO issue cooling a 5800x and then some.
    I have a 3950x on a D-15S (single fan model, off-set), and it does just fine. It holds 4.15~4.25ghz under load unless something takes it north of 70~75C, then it'll go down towards 4.15~4.05ghz at the lowest. The only way I can get it over 80C is with synthetic benchmarks or Prime 95 where with small FFT's on Prime 95 it will drop to it's stock clocks under extended loads.
    3950x Stock, X570 chipset, Ram: 2x dual rank sticks (32gb total) 3000mhz CL-15 on DOCP/XMP option.
    YOU CAN cool all 3000 and 5000 series AM4 chips with air cooling. The chips will clock down off highest clocks when you get them warm/hot. They won't generally get above 84C ever (mine has never gone north of that, as it will clock to stock clocks if it needs to for a moment to cool off). The AM4 chips are designed to granularly clock down in 25mhz increments the warmer they get (larger increments on 12/14nm GloFo chips of 1000/2000 series and 3000G series only).
    So long story short, you CAN air cool any 3000/5000 processor, but you'll want water cooling / liquid cooling if you can stand it & risks associated with it, if you want the higher clocks on the 5000 series 12 and 16 core for extended periods of time. A 105w 5800x should be just fine for a D14. Speeds VS Thresholds of temperature is customizable in BIOS as are the CPU cooler fan curves. Play around a bit with those and you'll find a happy medium IF you are unhappy with stock settings.

    Only get the 5800x or higher over a 5600x *IF* your games will use that extra two cores. If not, you are wasting your money. Otherwise, wait for cheaper non-X models to become available for (and saturate) consumer market space.

    Honestly though, I wouldn't be in a hurry to upgrade the 2700x unless you find it's holding back performance in a manner that is detrimental to your PC gaming experience.
     
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  15. ViperXtreme

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    Some people are getting very high temps on 5800X (including me) even on high end coolers like D15 or 360mm AIO/custom loop. Its just very hot at stock. Many factors contribute to its heat such as 8cores concentrated on single CCD, offset location of the CCD on the cpu wherein most coolers are not optimal on the positioning, very high boosting voltage at 1.45+v at default and maybe the "special processor" detected by CTR2 on zen3 cpus wherein some 5600X/5800X are lower binned and came from defective 5900X/5950X so the active CCD is CCD2 and the defective one might have some leak power in it. Good thing PBO2 curve optimizer exist
     

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    I'm still using a 1600 at stock so I would say no.
     
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    I upgraded from a 3800X to a 5800X and it was defiantly worth it.
     
  19. Agonist

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    Ive thought about getting a 5600x for now to replace my 2700x. I game @ 3840x1080 144hz. Depends on the game, but my gpu is kinda the limiting factor most of the times.
    But I still feel a 5600x in a custom loop would be a very good cpu.
     
  20. Undying

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    I dont think its worth it. Thats like going from 9900k to 11900k.
     
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