2070 vs Super vs MaxQ question

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by squidward, May 26, 2020.

  1. squidward

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    Hi. Can someone please explain what's the difference between a 20XX card & its Super/MaxQ version?

    I thought the Super versions were more powerful versions of the original cards (g.g 2070 super is more powerful than 2070, & thus gives more FPS, has more cuda cores & has higher MHz). Then MaxQ entered the picture. I read that the MaxQ is a powered down version of the original card, meaning less powerful & thus lower performance & FPS, but improves battery life. Correct me if I have got these facts wrong.

    Now, I am trying to buy a gaming laptop, & I thought of buying the super version of 2070 as I will anyway be plugged in while gaming & I want a powerful GPU & not MaxQ. Decided to go for the Gigabyte AORUS 17" Full HD 240Hz i7 RTX 2070 SUPER Laptop, which is "supposed" to be a super card, but some websites are mentioning that it is a Super MaxQ card?!! Like WTH... I thought super & maxQ were totally different versions... How can it be both super & maxq? It just means they made the card more powerful & made it less powerful again... Why will I have to pay £300 extra just for the same card?

    Can you please explain this as I am not finding answers anywhere.

    Should I go for a RTX 2070 or a 2070 Super MaxQ?
     
  2. A M D BugBear

    A M D BugBear Ancient Guru

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    Do you have this particular one:

    https://www.gigabyte.com/Comparison/Result/5?pids=7309

    Also, I looked up more on the Max-Q, its more about the slim design/power savings/etc.

    I found this:

    https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/nvidia-max-q-faq

    I am not very good on laptops at all, don't like them(No disrespect), But in general speaking the RTX 2070 Super version is obviously going to be faster then the normal RTX 2070 version, but like before, not really into laptops, but Figured I can try to help in some way, sorry about that.

    Also found this as well:

    https://www.techspot.com/review/2014-rtx-2070-super-max-q-laptop/

    Hope this helps a tad bit.
     
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  3. Undying

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    Nvidia really tried to make the it confusing. What happened with the good old 'm' for a mobile compared to the desktop.
     
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  4. squidward

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    Thanks for the help mate. These are the ones that I was seeing. They are both MaxQ & Super:

    https://www.scan.co.uk/products/173...0hk-32gb-ddr4-1tb-nvme-ssd-8gb-rtx-2070-super

    https://www.scan.co.uk/products/173...-512gb-nvme-ssd-8gb-rtx-2070-super-max-q-win1

    https://www.scan.co.uk/products/173...-512gb-nvme-ssd-8gb-rtx-2070-super-max-q-win1
     

  5. squidward

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    So, according to this article, there is no standalone "Super" cards... There are only MaxQ or Super MaxQ, is that right? But I also found some laptops that are "Super" but have no MaxQ feature, as you can see in this Aorus laptop. Maybe the product description of this laptop is wrong?

    https://www.scan.co.uk/products/173...UL-2oWXhXsrZvgFS4y4FbpdwU9Szl4t_tUvWRNaGYXjBw
     
  6. Noisiv

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    No.
    There is Super non MaxQ. The one you linked
    https://www.scan.co.uk/products/173...b-ddr4-1tb-nvme-8gb-rtx-2070-super-win10-home

    There is also simply Super for desktop, like in my PC. Super Mobile, ie non Max-Q for laptops (linked above), and Super Max-Q also for laptops.


    Max-Q is for thin laptops. 80 watts TDP, 1080 MHz boost.

    2070 Super mobile (non Max-Q) comes with same chip ,115 W TPD, 1380MHz boost; ~30% faster than Max-Q = RTX 2060
     
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  7. Noisiv

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    To conclude: there is 2070 Super for desktop.

    Laptop variants are:

    • 2070 Super Mobile
    • 2070 Super Max-Q
     
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  8. Astyanax

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    Max-Q's are ultrathins with lower clocks.
     
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  9. squidward

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    Ok. So there is a normal 2070, a super version and a super max-q version. There's no plain max-q version, right?

    Available options then:
    2070
    2070 Super
    2070 Super Max-Q
    2070 Max-Q doesn't exist? Or does it?

    So in terms of performance & power, the order (from most to least powerful) will be:

    2070 Super
    2070
    2070 Super Max-Q
    2070 Max-Q (if it exists)
     
  10. Noisiv

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    Forget about plain 2070. It has been superseded by faster Super. Think if it as 2075.


    You get either 2070 Super, or if you want thinner laptop, you get Max-Q version.
     
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    Ok. Thanks a lot for clearing that up. Cheers!
    Is there any way we can know how much power the laptop runs at before we buy that? If I were to buy the 2080 super Aorus, I know that there are versions which run 150W & those which run at 200W. Can I know which one I'm buying before I buy it? One running at 200W will be more powerful & I'd want that preferably, thus the question.
     

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