2020 has really screwed with my head.

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  1. jbscotchman

    jbscotchman Ancient Guru

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    Yes blame it on a news story that from a source you're not familiar with. On the flip side, what about the 1 yr old boy shot in his baby carriage during a barbecue in NYC? What did BLM hope to accomplish with this?
     
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    As said, individual examples can be found, it's not the way to represent a movement. I can for instance find some libertarian leaning Republicans and say that this represent the whole party, but it would instantly be wrong. You wouldn't get away with that in college and shouldn't get away with it in public forum posts either.
    If black on black problems brought are brought up, I never see a rightwinger ask, "well, why are they armed in the first place?". Because they don't believe that guns are a problem, but they certainly contribute to it just like a malfunctioning welfare state which mostly serves the already rich.
    How many millions have lost jobs, how many have lost health insurance? Covid cases are going up and lots of people are hurrying to open up the country in order to win elections, when it's clear that their negligence is what creates a lot of these problems in the first place. The only thing America does when race relations problems arise is to press the mute button. Lots of people killed? We can't talk about guns now (either).
    Why is the police militarized in USA? Why is that in one shoot-out the police can fire more shots than the entire German police force do during the entire year?

    I can post links endlessly, it will swell up emotions and this topic will be closed just like war topics.
    NY is for one thing, not the worst when it comes to per capita violence. That would be the south.

    I'm not blaming on the news (I know they work for profit and sometimes invent things out of thin air because it makes them money). If they cause problems is that they put a lot of coverage into covering who the shooter was, which does tend to lead to copycats.
     
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    You can flood with this thread with all the socialist propaganda you want, isn't that what fascism and bigotry does best? Shutting down other's opinions and beliefs?
     
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    Fascism is 100% rightwing, socialism isn't. This is why getting an education helps. And I do not have the power to stop people from posting here, I'm not a moderator and do not wish to be.

    I don't buy for a second that some of you care to stop the shootings, because if you did then you would have wanted comprehensive gun reform ages ago.
    If I post a link on how for instance Japan has about 2-3 killings per year due to guns, is that socialist propaganda? Japan is not socialist.
    Your thinking is low grade.
     

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    jbscotchman Ancient Guru

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    There's a whole lot to say here but out of respect for the forums I won't say anymore because I know this is a mult-cultural and multi-national website of many beliefs and different sources of info. We can talk private if you want.
     
  6. From the footnote of the Video's more info portion "--Disclaimer-- These are the opinions and ramblings of a lunatic. They are for entertainment purposes only and are probably wrong. You listen at your own risk."

    I was going to write before finding that I think salty is coked out (or drinks way too much coffee)
     
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    No point if you're going to send videos from specific events. Think bigger.
    If more people are thrown into poverty due to a virus, is it more likely to lead to more or less violence? Now, that's should be the major concern.
    Also, why are politicians bought by for instance NRA money? Why is USA unique in the west in having such gun problems? Wherein lies the morality of making money which leads to mass harm? (this question also applies to private prisons, if money can be made from putting people behind bars, does the system not want more people in prison? Yes it of course does)
    It's these major systematic errors USA needs to start address.

    I'm not going to believe people who express horrors of a kid dying to guns if this has continued for decades and there is no demand for major systematic change.
    How come the leader of NZ acted so fast after the major shooting? It's also good to note that she handled the covid problem a lot better.
     
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    True. But it's still a Real news story. How is this dude's opinions any different from what you get from CNN's and MSNBC'S anchors? Maybe cleaner language, but not much really.
     
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  9. Maybe that it may not be news? Just an observation; people publish their content as journalists, as entertainers. This does affect how they are viewed and treated in the eyes of the law (freedom of the press for example). How I perceive content is based on that - just a point an observation.


    I have something I thought you two might find interesting. It's called a political compass
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    Is it really worth to change topic into education of what suppose to be right and what suppose to be wrong?

    Aw yeah, mah boy with quality content. Since you are green, I assume you are social libertarian :D
     
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    That's one variant of it, but they seldom tell the entire truth. Marx for instance was in favor of reformism (see: the Paris commune) and saw more hope in USA than he did in Russia because Russia had strongmen leaders which would difficult to replace.
    Or take Rand's objektivionism which places it close to libertarianism, but she wasn't even in favor of female presidents. How that's for a small state?
    There are also many strange bedfellows. We see for instance how the "capitalist" west has a love affair with "communist" China (who in turn has extremely big socio-economic differences and of course some animals being more equal than others..)
     
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  12. lol *shrugs* I'm not sure what I am called
     
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    You know what I love about geo politics? It's like sports, if we still have them anymore? Everybody has a team. Some people support that team their whole life, and some switch teams throughout their lives. There is nothing wrong with either choice. I just took a look at the title of this thread and the intention of it. I've decided to let Josey Wales and Ten Bears sum it up the best I can.

     
  14. Yeah; nothing is purely simple. Just an example showing different incentives is all. Doesn't make either idealist or morally right or wrong. Believe me I don't intend to open the ethics can of worms lol

    I agree nah it's true what you said about geopolitics bro I think you are right on the money! I grew up in a Pentecostal household... folks were die hard Republicans, father was a die hard one mother more than him.

    I enlisted in the Marines out of high school and for me during that period was when I kinda fell out of paying attention to politics, the news etc (for a good while at least). I was like 17 when everything first started and probably 18 when the lightbulb clicked when I think I was at least semi aware enough of what was going on enough around me.

    So by 19 I was pretty disenfranchised with a lot of stuff at the time; this was back in 2009 and into 2010 when this was all starting for me. We were under Obama at the time and sending guys into Afghanistan. I don't intend to make this about War (that's not where this is going). Nah more so just I was way too young to "get anything" hell I think even now it's still a lot at times but then just what was right in front of me was enough at times.

    I just can relate. I started off in this home that was like oh you must live this way be this way and now I'm a total opposite. Three of my exes are black, two are filipino - this is like... not the way I grew up how my family was like. When you have parents that are like "oh we aren't racist" we just never had black friends never dated any etc.... stuff like that... just weirds you out as you get older... Don't relate to my younger self (13-15) but that's a good thing thank god. (if there is one)
     
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    you are green in your avatar!
     
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  16. *facepalm* I just edit my earlier post I'm such a dumbass I realized what you meant sorry! :D

    Yoda the libertarian :p haha that is funny

    EDIT: Yoda the Liberchlorian :cool:
     
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    green lives matter!
     
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    Lots of us do right now.
     

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