1usmus Custom Power Plan for Ryzen 3000 Download

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  1. fry178

    fry178 Maha Guru

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    I bought the first 3600 about a month after they came out, and since then all the changes done
    (bios/drivers/os etc), it's almost not noticeable between using amd and 1usmus plan for +90% of ppl using it as a "normal" rig for surfing/streaming/gaming etc.

    But amd and others can only make up for so much, and its really MS that needs to get their a@# in gear and not only update their crap to the "21st century"
    and start optimizing win for amd, not just intel.
    Then again, seeing how much stuff they break with updates, im not that confident that gonna happen with H1.
     
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  2. Neo Cyrus

    Neo Cyrus Ancient Guru

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    So this Power Plan from last Nov will work well and there is no issues with Microsoft being Microsoft?
     
  3. JonasBeckman

    JonasBeckman Ancient Guru

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    Still works as a alternative to the AMD power plans bundled with the chipset drivers. :)
    (Updated once to 1.1 but I don't think there's been any further changes to it since.)
     
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    MS isn't going to risk incurring the wrath of Intel by "optimizing" Windows for AMD... Besides, do we really need multi-threaded BSoDs? Next you'll expect MS to add color options.....
     
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    we can't use it for 1950x series right? won't do any good?
     
  6. Amaze

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    Use "1usmus Ryzen Power Plan", if you have a Zen 2 processor, runnning Windows 10 May 2019, Oct 2018, and earlier.
    Use "1usmus Ryzen Universal", with any processor running Windows 10 Nov 2019 Update or later.
     
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  8. JonasBeckman

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    There were scheduler changes in the November 2019 cumulative update but I believe AMD still recommends their own Balanced profile for the Ryzen 3000 CPU series. (Not exactly sure what the High Perf one gains if anything.)

    There's also the V4 from here with focus on energy saving while preserving performance which far as I can tell it beats both AMD's and 1Usmus profiles in that regard.
    https://www.computerbase.de/forum/threads/energiesparplan-zen2-ryzen-3000.1934824/
    (Found from here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/gijvck/new_ryzen_3000_powerplan_perfomance_like_1usmus/ )

    Tests on it can be found here:
    https://www.computerbase.de/forum/t...zen2-ryzen-3000.1934824/page-14#post-24096401

    I don't think AMD has changed much on their profile over these various chipset drivers it's still 5.0 balanced and high performance and then there's two(?) revisions to 1Usmus by now following the initial version and the updates I think were intended for 1909 with the November cumulative and scheduler changes but I don't know if 2004 made any further changes from how the OS does things and as usual user benchmarks and tests are very inconclusive with varying bios and OS tweaks altering results.
     
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  9. K.S.

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    Note there are settings I wouldn't advise in the plan, period.
     
  10. JonasBeckman

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    Yeah there's a ton of hidden settings to the full range of changes these things do to the OS when activated, one of the main ones is AMD's change to polling and updating far faster than the default and both 1Usmus and this V4 one likely alter some other stuff on top of whatever AMD's Ryzen profile already changes.

    There's also bios settings and changes to the AGESA code and problems with some functionality like Precision Boost and some of the power saving options or more aggressive tweaks that could differ from AMD's suggested and "auto" from one vendor could differ from how another one implemented it on their motherboards although I am still trying to learn how all that works since upgrading to this system with mostly pretty limited results though there are some pretty good guides available even if a lot is also on the nature of actually overclocking this architecture further and stuff like memory tweaks because latency and the infinity fabric in addition to the overall CPU performance and scaling plus measuring and monitoring the proper values and actual current and voltage not just that the CPU might be boosting to fairly high values to maintain responsiveness although that's also something AMD has tinkered with through these firmware updates and drivers.

    Lots of stuff to it and how it affects both energy saving and performance plus not keeping the CPU active constantly and within safe parameters even if these might look high at a glance. :)
    (And will be high and possibly detrimentally so from poor bios editing or trying to get manual values going instead of automatic or balancing it via offsets.)
     
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  11. CPC_RedDawn

    CPC_RedDawn Ancient Guru

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    Using the new V4 power plan.

    Anyone with an Asus board want to tell me where these settings are? Or if Asus call them something different?

    • Global C-state Control = Enabled (FOUND)
    • Power Supply Idle Control = Low Current Idle
    • CPPC = Enabled (FOUND)
    • CPPC Preferred Cores = Enabled (FOUND)
    • AMD Cool'n'Quiet = Enabled
    • PPC Adjustment = PState 0 (FOUND)
    Under PPC Adjustment I only have 1 settings and that is Pstate 0.....? I have seen other motherboard with 0,1,2,3,4,etc....?

    Also why do these plans (even AMD's plans) have the min processor state set to 90% or 99%??? I edit this to be 50% and I see clock speeds drop to 2.2GHz and temps drop A LOT and don't become erratic. Where with V4 power plan at default 90% I see min clock speeds of 3.3GHz and with AMD plans at default 99% I see min clock speeds of 3.8GHz which keeps the CPU at base clocks. C-state still works and cores do sleep. But temps become erratic and spike from 30C upto 45C down to 35C up to 54C down to 48C and up and down all over the place.
     
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  12. theoneofgod

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    ~So the real question here, is this still useful, Windows 10 2004 and beyond?
     
  13. K.S.

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    AFAIK - Power Supply Idle Control - A legacy feature for PSUs/motherboards no longer relevant with most setups. Best leave on AUTO; manual override may be more problematic than positive. Description: This setting stipulates specific draw states for the PSU in regards to motherboard negotiating sleep mode etc...
     
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  14. CPC_RedDawn

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    Thanks for the info, I literally don't see it in any section of the BIOS and I know this BIOS like the back of my hand.

    I read also that AMD Cool'N'Quiet is also an old feature and basically been replaced/incorporated within Global C-States.
     
  15. Neo Cyrus

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    Does Asus even support Cool'n'Quiet, I see no such option in my BIOS?
     

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    For which board? Last I seen the Xtreme was on 12e ?
     
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  18. JonasBeckman

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    It's an older post but yeah Gigabyte is still doing betas for F12
    https://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/28441-gigabyte-beta-bios.html

    Some of these could be on their website too, Master last I checked remained on F11 and the beta bios files got updated around the 18th - 20th after a bit of inactivity but I believe they're all still 1.0.0.4 AGESA and the main changelog is still just "Improved memory compatibility." though as some of the beta discussions go they have fixed a few more things since F12A (Letter denotes beta.) to E, F or G depending on board model.
     
  19. WhiteLightning

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    yeah , most seem to be skipping 1.0.0.5 seems there is something wrong with it. so next will be 1.0.0.6.
     
  20. Neo Cyrus

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    Are they actually skipping it, or just taking half a year+ as they usually do? Unless we're talking about Asus, they just seem to skip updates regardless of how good they are.
     

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