196.21 WHQL Breaks AB and Precision...

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  1. Unwinder

    Unwinder Moderator Staff Member

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    Reading clocks at low level has nothing to do with driver's overclocking interfaces. RT's clock monitor reads all clocks including shader clock fine regardless of the driver too.
     
  2. Unwinder

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    I've just peeked into issue a bit deeper. The driver uses different domain IDs when reporting and when setting new clocks so it sounds like a bug in the driver and not an intentional overclocking interface evolution. Bugreport is filled and sent to NVIDIA.
     
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    OK, thankx Unwinder
     
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    Oh boy, who's been writing Nvidia drivers recently???
     

  5. Hog54

    Hog54 Maha Guru

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    I guess the guys that write the drivers dont use precision or rivatuner,or they just dont plain try them out.:confused:
     
  6. burebista

    burebista Ancient Guru

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    Maybe they borrowed some ATI programmers? :D
     
  7. Hog54

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    Well these drivers dont work with thier own utility that came out a couple days ago,so I guess the jokes on them.:)


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    what program is that Hog54, looks like ntune?
     
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    even control panel sys info theres no clocks lol

    NVIDIA System Information report created on: 01/19/2010 22:18:11
    System name: xx

    [Display]
    Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz (3000 MHz)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP, 32-bit (Service Pack 3)
    DirectX version: 9.0
    GPU processor: GeForce GTX 280
    Driver version: 196.21
    CUDA Cores: 240
    Memory interface: 512-bit
    Memory: 1024 MB
    Video BIOS version: 62.00.0E.00.0F
    IRQ: 16
    Bus: PCI Express x16 Gen2
    GPU processor: GeForce GTX 280
    Driver version: 196.21
    CUDA Cores: 240
    Memory interface: 512-bit
    Memory: 1024 MB
    Video BIOS version: 62.00.1C.00.10
    IRQ: 16
    Bus: PCI Express x16 Gen2
    [Components]

    nvCplUI.exe 2.8.290.13 NVIDIA Control Panel
    nvWSS.dll 6.14.11.9621 NVIDIA Workstation Server
    nvViTvS.dll 6.14.11.9621 NVIDIA Video Server
    nvMoblS.dll 6.14.11.9621 NVIDIA Mobile Server
    NVMCTRAY.DLL 6.14.11.9621 NVIDIA Media Center Library
    NVOGLNT.DLL 6.14.11.9621 NVIDIA Compatible OpenGL ICD
    nvDispS.dll 6.14.11.9621 NVIDIA Display Server
    NVCPL.DLL 6.14.11.9621 NVIDIA Compatible Windows 2000 Display driver, Version 196.21
    NV4_MINI.SYS 6.14.11.9621 NVIDIA Compatible Windows 2000 Miniport Driver, Version 196.21
    NV4_DISP.DLL 6.14.11.9621 NVIDIA Compatible Windows 2000 Display driver, Version 196.21
    PhysX 09.09.1112 NVIDIA PhysX
    NVCUDA.DLL 6.14.11.9621 NVIDIA CUDA 3.0.1 driver
    nvGameS.dll 6.14.11.9621 NVIDIA 3D Settings Server
     

  11. Unwinder

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    Good news, I've implemented a workaround allowing to restore overclocking for 196.21 by means of using bugged IDs used in this version as well as provide the compatibility containing the fix from NVIDIA side in future NVIDIA drivers. Quote from the changes list:


    - Added workaround for overclocking bug of ForceWare 196.21. Please take a note
    that the workaround is applied only to 196.00 - 196.21 driver versions range
    in order to ensure compatibility with future fixed NVIDIA drivers.
    That is wny you may need to force the workaround via ClockDomainIdWorkaround
    configuration file entry if NVIDIA release a few more versions affected by
    this problem prior to fixing it
    - Added workaround for overclocking bug of ForceWare 196.21. Please take a note
    that the workaround is applied only to 196.00 - 196.21 driver versions range
    in order to ensure compatibility with future fixed NVIDIA drivers.
    That is wny you may need to force the workaround via ClockDomainIdWorkaround
    configuration file entry if NVIDIA release a few more versions affected by
    this problem prior to fixing it


    I guess we'll upload beta 5 tomorrow (probably even today), allow you to test it a bit then incorporate the same workaround into EVGA Precision (unfortunately we don't use public beta releases approach with Precision like we do with Afterburner)
     
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    It was very nice of you to do this with your busy schedule. Much appreciated.
     
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  14. TFL Replica

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    Thank you Unwinder.
     
  15. Unwinder

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    Updated builds have been sent to both MSI and EVGA. So we'll release new MSI Afterburner beta 5 with it soon to allow public beta testing and EVGA will update Precision couple days later too after testing the build internally.
     

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    Thank you for all that work sir.
     
  17. Unwinder

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    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-driver-software-overclocking-bug,9489.html

    NVIDIA confirmed that the fix is coming in future drivers, so other applications which don't include the workaround like recently released MSI Afterburner 1.5.0b5 and EVGA Precision 1.9.1 (e.g. NVIDIA System Tools, Gainward ExpertTool etc) will start working again.
    Great thanks to people from NV for feedback, for paying attention to issue and for working on a fix. That's what I call proper developer relations. Totally beyond of my understanding why ATI devrel cannot be the same and why they almost never do the same and tend to leave issues undocumented and unresolved for ages.
     
  18. Blaise

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    One of the members of nVidia's technical support just wrote:
    on their nVidia forum.
     
  19. Wanny

    Wanny Guest

    Good to hear :)
     
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