13.1 Reloaded driver for legacy users...

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon Drivers Section' started by kevsamiga1974, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. Miroglu

    Miroglu Active Member

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    Great thanks for the share
     
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  2. tbob13

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    So you weren't able to get Portal 2 to work with the modded drivers? I am having trouble getting it to work on my 4870.
     
  3. OldMX

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    I did install them on my kid's 4870, perhaps you have another issue that requires a clean windows install?
     
  4. tbob13

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    Well, it works fine on 12.6 but not on 13.1. I'm also having trouble with Metro apps again on 13.1.. OpenCL seems to be working.

    I'll just be going back to 12.6 I guess.

    Edit: Went into Device Manager and manually installed 8.970.100.7000 (it had selected 8.951.1.0 for whatever reason.) and now all is well. Thanks kevsamiga1974 for the driver. :)
     
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  5. SamLab

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    "13.1 Reloaded driver for legacy users" worked fine, official 13.1/13.4 Beta Legacy worked too
     
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    nubie question : do I need to clean my previous driver before installing this driver or not?
     
  7. ibsan

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    Hi,
    I've been looking into the forum before posting.
    I have an AMD RADEON 3470 and when I install any legacy driver, I can't play any video using Xbox video or any metro media can't start a video and sometimes crashes my Xbox music. When I uninstall the driver to use the one from Microsoft, everything works fine. But I always need the driver to use Photoshop CS6 and Adobe After Effect.

    I would like to know if there is a driver I can use so that those applications will work fine.

    Thanks.
     
  8. janil

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    I had unlucky, probably just poorly timed and unrelated scenario. I installed the latest legacy beta over 13.1 and noticed how awful they were. So I uninstalled those and installed these reloaded ones and a few days after I start getting these artifacts (everywhere where hardware acceleration is used):
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    Now that I uninstalled the reloaded ones, the artifacts are still there. I've cleaned my computer and the temps are ok (around 50C at max).. So, as coincide my card is just probably breaking.

    That or those evil AMD guys broke my card with the latest beta to make me buy a new card :p
     
  9. fLuXuS

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    That's odd.. Run a Cleaning Tool (TwL or Display Driver Uninstaller v3.2 in safe mode) , and install Kev's Hybrid 11.12.

    good luck
     
  10. janil

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    Yeah.. Some artifacts started to appear in bios too, so I guess it's defective. Switched the card to another Radeon card and it's totally fine. Might try the oven trick later
     

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    Love it, thanks a lot.
     
  12. Thalin

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    I'm sorry to bump such an old thread.

    I have an old ATi 4870 card, which still does the job for the games I play. Anyway i'm aware the 13.1 driver is a compatible driver, and probably the last that'll be released for my card let's face it (hell I thought the one before would be - the 12.6 I think it was), and although this reloaded driver installs fine it just shows the standard 'Advanced Micro Devices, Inc' in the 'provider' field of the driver information, instead of all the information from the image in the first post of this topic. So my guess is it's just installing the default ATi driver as opposed to this reloaded one in this package. Why is this?

    I had a problem with the Tweakforce 13.1 driver too, in that it didn't even let me install the display driver from that, it just said it was incompatible. Why is this? Despite the 13.1s being compatible with my card :/
     
  13. Calamity_15kHz

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    Hi kevsamiga1974,

    This is my first post in this forum. Thanks for the work you put in this driver.

    I create modded drivers myself for the specific task of arcade and console emulation, where you need enhanced functionality regarding custom resolutions. We have been using XP since recently because we found XP drivers to work much better for this task, but for obvious reasons we're moving to modern Windows these days. Besides, we're stuck with HD 2xxx, 3xxx & 4xxx cards, because things don't work as expected starting with HD 5xxx cards. For this reason we used the legacy drivers (13.1) as a base for our modded drivers.

    Now, the problem started when some users reported the green screen issue when playing flash videos. I was pointed to this thread and found you had sorted this problem out. So I used your driver as a base instead the official one:

    Due to being my first post here I'm unable to post links. Please google for "CRTEmuDriver for Windows 7 test results" and you'll find the related thread in the arcadecontrols.com forum.

    Unfortunately, we're still seeing the green screen issue. Actually, your mod works great. But once I apply some binary patches to atikmdag.sys, which are required for the custom resolution functionality, DXVA support stops working. Just to clarify, it's not a driver signature problem since we go through the whole signature process again to create the new package after patching. We also fix the checksum in the .sys. It's interesting because patching one single byte in that file seems to prevent DXVA from working. My understanding is that DXVA functionality is implemented in somewhere else (not in the sys). I suspect of a checksum related issue.

    I'd appreciate any pointer to where the DXVA support is implemented in case you know which files are involved, since there are 65 files in there and at the moment I'm hopeless.

    Thanks for your great work.
     
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    Thankyou :) i'm still on my 4870 x2 and can't afford a better gpu.. You are a life saver..
     
  15. kevsamiga1974

    kevsamiga1974 Master Guru

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    Actually, it's completely crazy what I discovered only recently by digging...

    I have been of late, having a trip back in time down memory lane finding and using very OLD drivers that were released with the 4870x2, (8.52.6, 8.8 beta) and also using Windows XP x86. I didn't get chance to use or try out those drivers before, since both my 4870x2 cards were second hand, and came with no driver discs. I always assumed that more recent drivers had to be better, and those earliest drivers are kind of hard to find anymore on the net from 6 years ago. Hmmmm....well anyway...

    So I discovered that games such as BFBC2, and Crysis 2 of all things (from 2011), run just absolutely fine on these old drivers in Windows XP of all things *from* 2008, unlike all the problems with later drivers needing fixes for Crysis 2 and all the other issues.

    Games that also used to CTD after all the "optimizations" came, also don't crash anymore either. Things just seemed to get progressively worse with ever increasing versions. Yes there are speedups for games, but these games now start to crash and such.

    Using XP is also a more stable platform for your 4870x2 which has none of the problems inherant of Vista/7 (You don't have to worry about DX10 for a start which eliminates 50% of problems, and they already had 6-7 years to perfect DX9 stuff on XP). So ATI legacy+Windows XP = good combo. They had no time to perfect DX10, back in 2008 competition with NVidia was intense, and the drivers were rushed to claim the top spot of fastest card.

    I found that when it comes to ATI legacy cards such as the 4870x2, XP is a better platform for it all round. You can even play 4K UltraHD on youtube without a BSOD as long as you stay under Cat 10.2 and below, unlike Vista/7 that just bomb with every available driver out there.

    I even managed to fix the original powerplay bug inherant in official 8.8 to 8.11 with 750mhz on the first core using the knowledge I gained from modding later drivers.

    Powerplay broken on first core from 8.8 to 8.11, fixed in 8.12-9.1, broken on second core from 9.2-9.4, fixed again in 9.5-10.5, broken in 10.6-10.9. Fixed in 10.10-12.2 and broken again in 12.3+ and left that way ever since...

    For 8.8 official (XP), you swap out the ati2mtag.sy_ with the one from 8.52.2 or 8.52.6 and your good to go. No more powerplay bug. Also no driver signing issues to worry about on XP. Of course you lose flash hardware acceleration (that came in at 9.11) but it was always buggy and problematic anyway, needing people to turn it off more often than not.

    What I learned from all this with ATI legacy is USE the drivers that came with your card. And DONT upgrade ever, UNLESS you have a COMPELLING reason not to stay.

    All my stuff works like it's supposed to again, things never worked as good, (OpenGL is the exception) and I have good DX game compatibility albeit on Windows XP, and my 4870x2 actually mostly behaves itself without weird sporadic crashes to desktop out of games.

    It's certainly something to consider, going backwards instead of forwards when you are having problems...

    On old games from 2005 era like ego engine games, I found I cannot go higher than 10.10 (xp) or everything old starts to go down the crapper and stutter.

    *

    Actually on the OpenGL thing of old drivers, not having support of greater than GL 2.1, even that is bizarre in itself, as staying on or below Catalyst 8.10 allows old but good games like IL2:1946 and ETQW to work flawlessly without crashing and burning all the way to hell.

    Is newer more better or more stable ? makes you think...

    Hell even COD4 and WIC plays with the most FPS with Catalysts from the Mid range 8.xx series.
     
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  16. DjBoZa

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    will these drivers work on my ati radeon hd 3200 gpu?
     

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