120Hz, 240Hz, Which Is It This Year?

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  1. Size_Mick

    Size_Mick Master Guru

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    I'm just checking to see whether all the cheap TVs are going to by lying about their refresh rates this year like they have in previous years. If I want a 120Hz TV, will I have to buy one that says 240Hz? And if I want a 240Hz TV do they even exist? Will they be disguised as a 480Hz TV?
     
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    TV is maximum of 120hz PANEL as far as I know. Panel shows the true hz capabilities. Most of them are 60hz and premium gaming capable ones are 120hz. More frequency means interpolation by software and there is no truth inside, only panel is crystal clear with each setting.
     
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    That's my point, a lot of these TVs give you fake numbers on the "refresh rate" spec because they include some gimmick that is supposed to make things like football games seem smoother but doesn't in fact change the refresh rate at all. Rather it seems to blank the screen in between refreshes or something, causing the picture to actually look choppier. Yet these a-holes are somehow allowed to list this fake refresh rate as "refresh rate" in their specs. It seems like I can't know for sure until I hunt down the exact specs for each TV (which often DO NOT show up on the manufacturer's product info page) that I look at and it's frustrating that I need to go to such lengths just to get a straight answer. Believe me, "panel refresh rate" is a term I've rarely if ever seen in specifications, even on the manufacturers' own sites.
     
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    There are blessed sites like my favorite one displayspecifications . It helped me a lot before I buy my two new TVs. It's also legit for PC monitor, etc.
     

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    Thanks for the link, bookmarked for later. Hopefully I'll get lucky and find a decent black friday deal for a 50" or bigger 4K 120Hz.
     
  6. Is that the case at present for all Television displays? What of "big-format-displays" none of them are sold with tv tuners?
     
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    Best way to filter them IMO, would be to look at the input specs and see if it accepts more than 60hz at 4K. Otherwise they can market it as 120hz to a 1000000hz as they often do, but it is still a 60hz display...
     
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    Hey here's a quote from the description of a "TCL" brand TV I'm looking at:

    "240 Natural Motion

    Enjoy fast-moving movies, sports and video games with virtually no motion blur."

    So this is the kind of garbage I'm talking about. But this probably means the panel can do 120Hz.

    Enjoy a virtual (not actual) 240Hz with virtually (not actually) no motion blur (which means there will be motion blur). GOTTA READ BETWEEN THE LINES PEOPLE
     
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    My TV is listed as a 120hz panel, but will only do 120hz at 1080p. Frame interpolation is awful, I do not know how people play games with it on as the input lag is unbearable. There are no TV's available that can do 4k 120hz other than those BFD panels.
     
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    No need for further talk. It all depends on panel type. Up until 2020, for now, 2019 end, we have:

    TN panel goes up to 480hz.
    VA panel goes up to 240hz.
    IPS panel goes up to 240hz.
    QLED panel goes up to 120hz.
    OLED panel goes up to 120hz.

    Now take them backwards for image quality. True speed vs compromised clarity/visuals.
     

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