1. Ghz

    Ghz Maha Guru

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    ok I have a samsung 244t 24" with a max rez of 1920x1200 16:10
    now 1080p is 1920x1080 16:9

    so is 1920x1200 1200p or what???? it is running in HD
     
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    hmm so why is everyone so hiped up on 1080p when 1200p is better?
     
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    because the standards for HD do not include 1200p.
    720i 720p 1080i 1080p.

    1080p is just the top end of the standard. No broadcast will be in 1080p anytime soon, but in theory the new HD DVD and Blueray formats should have movies in 1080p.

    DJB
     

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    Samsung 224T is a Monitor, not a TV.

    HDTV resolutions is a standard that HDTVs must support at least 1080i or 720p to be considered HD.

    Note that HDTV's Native resolutions are usualy not the same as the resoltuions they support. A common native resoltuion for 720p LCD TVs is actualy 1336x768, however you can find 720p LCD TVs with 1280x768, and 1280x1028 native resolutions. These odd resoltuions come into play when these TVs are doubled as a PC monitor as most LCDTVs have VGA and DVI ports.

    What makes your Samsung not a TV is the fact it lacks a TV tuner. All TVs have a TV tuner, majority of which are still Standard Def TV. These are labled HDTV ready, as they contain ports (Component, or HDMI) that alow you to hook up an HDTV cable or satelight reciever. This means your Samsung is HDTV ready, but is not an TV since it lacks a Standard Def Tuner, thus making it a monitor that supports HDTV. Kinda confusing huh.

    In short you just have a PC monitor that can double as a HDTV provided you got and HDTV reciever.

    1920 x 1200 is a res only can be realised via high end video cards on High End PCs. As for TV, 1920x1080 will be the highest res for quite some time.
     
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    Wow, so my 51" sony is not a tv. I'm throwing it out the window now...
     
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    No offense, but you're putting the cart ahead of the mule here. That monitor is not HDCP compliant, and will most likely not accept a 1080p signal. Where you get 1200p I don't understand.
     
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    It is 1920x1200 progressive scan which = 1200p. There is no industry term called 1200p but by the way the p is used in the hdtv terms it is 1200p(p = progressive). Comps go by different terms though, like 1600x1200 is xhd...so...I guess 1920x1200 would be widescreen xhd?
     
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    @Toji a lot of HDTV's dont have tuners it just has to do with how it's labled, so in essance all LCD's are both TV's and monitors

    @HanShot1st, befor I even reply, do you even know what 1080p stands for?
     
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    haha thats what I was going to say
    also (i= interlaced)

    EDIT: 1600x1200 is 4:3 and 1920x1200 is 16:10
     

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    I've been watching HDTV since the late 90s my friend. Your lack of understanding of the basics really shows in every comment you've made thus far.

    BTW, go do some research on HDCP compliance and try not to cry when you realize your 24" monitor is NOT 1080p compatible and will never accept a digital HDTV signal from a modern cable or satellite box that uses HDCP.

    You have a 24" computer monitor...so what?
     
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    HDCP has nothing to do with resolution (HDCP= High-bandwidth Digital Contant Protection) 1080p as explaind by UnclePappi is 1920x1080 progresive and this monitor WILL run in 1080p

    HDCP is just some sh!ty security crap from intel that requires each componant to have a key in order to accept and send signals

    so whare your getting this I have to have an HDCP complyant monitor in order to run in highdef I have no clue

    and also no this monitor isn't HDCP complyant
     
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    What HanShot1st is saying is that just because it supports a resalution doesn't mean it will support the signal. Because your Monitor does not support HDCP means it will not recieve a 1080p signal from any source because all 1080p HDTV signals will require HDCP compliance.
    I hope that clears up what HanShot1st (the most knowledgeable one I've seen in this forum about HDTV so far) has been trying to help you understand.
    Mule=Signal, Resolution=Cart. You were putting the Cart ahead of the Mule. It doesn't matter what your Cart can hold if your Mule can't pull it.
     
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    Some people seems to be forgetting that hdcp is not even in effect yet...lol, and probably won't be for 4-5 yrs. So the discussion bout hdcp can be put on hold til around 2010. Anything with rgb or dvi/hdmi and 1280x720 or higher res can play hdtv.
     
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    ok so exactly what is 1080p is it a resolution or is it a type of signal
     

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    It's just a resolution. There is 1920x1080i and 1920x1080p. The only difference between the two is progressive and interlaced. Progressive gives a cleaner more stable picture cause interlaced is flashing even THEN odd scan lines while progressive is flashing even AND odd lines at the same time.:)
     
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    We are not debating that. We are explaining that just because his Monitor has a resolution of 1920/1200 does not give him a 1200p HDTV. He will definatly need the HDCP before he can even get a 1080p signal from a HD source because when 1080p signals arive they will be HDCP encrypted. Oh and HDCP will be ineffect this year in the form of B-ray and HD-DVD players coming out this month and in the next couple of months. Which by the way is the only current method to get a 1080p HDTV signal.
     
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    I knew about all this before I got

    the 2405 DELL Ultra Sharp no HDMI inputs not HDCP
    Logitech Z5500 on SPDIF.
    Audigy2 ZS PLT PRO with external hub.

    I am not worried its going to be years before they get rid of non HD movie format to watch which I enjoy watching 19by12 max videocard settings look great for next few years.

    Or it will be hacked over snd over again

    Turst me its large enough market to have a someone make money off it .Most at this time last yr did not have HDCP and HDMI thats a huge market.
     
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    The systems are capable of using hdcp but they are not actually going to be using it for quite some time. Did you hear about the backroom deals the movie publishers made? They don't want to enable hdcp yet cause they feel it's going to slow down sales of the hd players. To many problems for the average consumers. Remember most hdtv owners don't have hdmi connections. It's changing fast but right now the majority are using rgb.
     
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    True. Plus about %1 of those people have a HDTV capable of doing 1080p. %99 will still only be gaetting 1080i and even still, only a small % of those people are getting 1080i natively.
     

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