11700K Retail Review

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  1. Fox2232

    Fox2232 Ancient Guru

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    Take some workload which has specific threading capability, like spawning certain number of threads for each task. This number of threads is going to cause same CPU utilization on all 8C/16T CPUs as long as CPU is being bottleneck.

    Why does 10700F has much higher utilization than 3700X in CP2077?
    Why does 3700X has much higher utilization than 10700F AC:Valhala?
    And all those videos show that one gets much higher utilization than other without any consistence.
    Something in the video is not right. And it would not be 1st YT channel which posts fake videos while just overlaying text for GPU or CPU names.
     
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  2. cucaulay malkin

    cucaulay malkin Ancient Guru

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    doesn't r3000 pick the best cores and let others sit at very light loads ?
    you're right tho

    this is a channel I trust and there ain't much difference in usage between 3700x and 10700k despite differences in fps can be significant at times

     
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  3. kapu

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    You might be suprised in 3 years . But we will see , Cyberpunk provides interesting data :D
     
  4. cucaulay malkin

    cucaulay malkin Ancient Guru

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    just went through the latter video I linked
    you're right,the first one is either weird or fake

    in the legitimate one 10700k leads 3700x by 16.5% on average,but pause the video at any moment,you'll never see above 5% difference in usage,usually 2-3% even if the performance varies significantly.
    only 5600x is noticeably higher,very often in the 75-85% range,despite being the fastest single thread.
    so glad Im finally getting an octa,wanted one since 9900 (not the year).
     
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  5. suty455

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    sigh so sad Intel fanbois will still blindly buy despite all the kicks they have had in the Teeth over the years from lack of progression and feature capping to needing a new board almost yearly to get the latest benefits
     
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    LOL yeah... been crying myself to sleep ever since I bought this 8700k 3 years ago :D
     
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  7. kapu

    kapu Ancient Guru

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    I was crying when i had 7600K , quad core king at a time ....
     
  8. rflair

    rflair Don Commisso Staff Member

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    And RAM speed and CAS.
     
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  9. bobnewels

    bobnewels Master Guru

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    My 5800X 5175Mhz CL20 3600Mhz Just as good as 11700K but I am rocking a Cheap 10850K and there is no difference in PC gaming or anything really apart from stupid Cinebench scores.
    Play PC game @ 4K and any CPU will do. Play PC games at 720P/1080P then single core thread could get you a few FPS.
    5800x.png

    @Dardan1a
    Looks like Nizzen scores are normal for that benchmark . I tested a 5800X on RTX 3080 and score 215FPS with CL20 3600Mhz Ram ,so RTX 3090 looks good at those FPS and neither CPU is bad at those crap settings.
    Shadow-of-the-Tomb-Raider-Test.jpg
     
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    ''Woow, its the same chip.'' how surprising.
     

  11. Undying

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    Nice. That is one fast 5800x. :p
     
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  12. MonstroMart

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    Those difference are lower in this video than the previous video though and are more inline with what reported by other sources. It's a well known fact that the 10700k is a better gaming cpu than the 3700x at a lower resolution than 3k with a high end GPU. The previous video has some unusually high difference specially the first game. At 3k and up there's not much difference though.

    I just realized while the first video is claiming 2k it is using DLSS in some games which means it is not really running at 2k which could explain the unusually high difference. Still a good result for the 10700k when DLSS 2.0 is available but it's not something you can rely on in all games you play far from it.
     
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  13. cucaulay malkin

    cucaulay malkin Ancient Guru

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    yeah must have been fake
     
  14. nizzen

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    5.3ghz all core ~1.42v LLC8 5.1ghz is sweetspot for my sample. SP63
    standard 4000c16 in that test

    I can confirm that 11700k is a boring cpu. Only reason to buy this is for gaming only and upgrading from ancient hardware.

    For me 8 core in 2021 is epic fail. Still using my soon 4 years old delidded 7980xe @ 4700mhz with 4000mhz c16 memory for Workstation, and some gaming. My son is using my best delidded direct die cooled 10900k 5,5ghz for gaming :p

    My doughter is using the 5900x for gaming and videoes.
     
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  15. MonstroMart

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    Don't think so just realized the guy is using DLSS this could explain the results as Ryzen 3k was kind of struggling at 1080p
     

  16. cucaulay malkin

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    may be

    with faster ram both could serve as pretty good hig refresh gamining cpus
     
  17. Killersjp

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    Well, after looking at the Anandtech results linked by someone on here it shows how well the i9 9900K still does for its age at 4K gaming. As I only have a 120hz LG Oled48cx there is no point spending about £1000 for a new cpu and motherboard. See what comes out in a couple of years I guess
     
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    Unless you always want the absolute best, no point in upgrading 9900K's if your main concern is gaming. Gain is not worth the cost. Professional workloads is a different topic though.
     
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    I've been saying for weeks: Intel Skippy Lake.
     
  20. tty8k

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    It is possible, I don't play Cyberpunk.

    Still, the concept of future proof cpu is long gone to me, they're wasted in 2 years (along with motherboard).
     

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