Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by rflair, Mar 6, 2021.
141 vs 291 watts ?! Jesus!
It looks like AVX-512 power consumption though. Normal power consumption is probably about the same as 10th gen. This said if you plan to run anything using AVX-512 on this better make sure the PSU can handle it
Gpu situation is same in europe. Only " office gpus" are in stock . And scalper prices and record high. Even old 1060 gtx used goes by 250-300 euro. Crazy
But CPU you have many options comet lake is also very cheap, intel went down with prices as there is alot of stock and AMD has superior performance.
You can even get i9 10900f.for 350eur.... Even now i sometimes think it would have been better more lasting deal than my 5600x...
Ya that's kind of not fair, under AVX2 it's like 240w, pretty much like 10th gen, high draw none the less.
Still kind of make the AVX-512 part of it less of a factor. Temp under AVX-512 are also ridiculously high i think the cpu reached 104 celcius using one of the top air cooler on the market. I mean if you need a 800+W psu and a 200$ cooler to effectively use AVX-512 on the 11700k you might as well invest into a 5900x at this point.
Exacly. And with much lower power draw. I know for some people watts mean nothing but in world we live in right now it should matter.
AVX-512 should not be ignored even for gamers. Intel's MOC library has AVX2 and they made AVX-512 test builds very long time ago.
One never knows which game will use it.
Sure, it will give intel edge in benchmarks at all sites that run max OC at locked clock with superb MBs and PSUs. But regular user is going to experience thermal/power throttle and will not see same benefit.
And I do not want to see possible results for those who think that they can get cheapo MB with top CPU.
Probably no game will use it, even now games that say they require AVX have it patched out and it made zero difference, pretty much just a feature check.
Not knocking Intel, I use one of their CPUs, just wish they hadn't stagnated the market, the billions in profit over the years they could have invested more capital into their fabs.
So Amd is faster and lower TDP and cheaper not buy much from what I can see on MSRP
CPU are running to much TDP and heat for my taste. I like my CPU to be under 100tdp/watt just like I like my GPU to be under 150TDP/watt and that mostly cause I like to keep the heat dumped in my room in check
I can almost guarantee that enabling avx-512 for a game will almost always hurt performance ,, any substantial use is going to throttle the core frequency hard , slowing everything else down, since it massively increases power consumption.
wow this is so bad. Just... no words. Loss of cores, loss of performance, the insane 200W+ stuff (not a surprise, my 8700k with just 6 cores can eat 200W with ease with AVX2, and it's still 14nm).
I just feel embarrassed for Intel if this is the true performance.
It doesn't work like this, games that use AVX2 for example are only doing it while they execute those instructions. Easy to see with the AVX offset and monitoring clocks.
Plus, gaming is not going to get a CPU into thermal and power limits, at least not in 2021. The CPU will have plenty of space to boost even while executing AVX512 code.
And AVX is still worth it even with the dramatic increases in power consumption and even if you're throttling, it will still result in better compute.
I can find all models from Nvidia from our online stores in Romania. All the 3000 series is available here.
The issue doesn't seem to be availability here, but price, with a 3070 being 1500$ or so. At this price, most of us will just pass.
Poland in regular shops
Poland in regular shops there is close to nothing if there is something it costs close to scalper price, today i found 3060 for 850 euro, how that sounds? ( regular shop not scalper).
Faster? Only on Anandtech
Well at least you can buy a 5800X with no problems or wait times. Most UK stores have the 5800X in high stock counts. It's the only chip available right now from AMD.
Mine is fake too
@nizzen tries so hard for Intel. Give him a cookie!
so it is true
latency is a bit up,so overall for gaming it might lose whatever ipc gain there is
i'm getting the same 41ns latency on 10500 42x core 42x ring with 4133 c16 ram,worse than your 3733 c14
I still think whatever we saw in this review might be a bit off.they didn't disclose what board they used,so prolly z590.
on my z490 it took a f4 revision to get gaming performance up to the same level that other boards were getting from start.
not getting a positive impressions with this early preview though.oh well,10700kf is 290eur and dropping
Fake review. 11700 beats even ryzen 5960x. I can't disclose more info.