‘Indefinite Detention’ Bill Passes Senate 93-7

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  1. BlackZero

    BlackZero Ancient Guru

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    Hard to believe in this day and age.


    "No man of what state or condition he be, shall be put out of his lands or tenements nor taken, nor disinherited, nor put to death, without he be brought to answer by due process of law."

    Magna Carta - 1297/ 1354.
     
  2. BLEH!

    BLEH! Ancient Guru

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    I'm pretty sure the US constitution says something very similar. Can't you just do what many Americans seem to do these days and sue your government?
     
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    hallryu Don Altobello

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    Excellent quote. It started with this and it ends with internment, 'emergency' terror legislation and extrajudicial killings.

    Laws should defend the innocent, and punish the guilty. A difficult balancing act to be sure but these types of laws destroy freedom, democracy and the certainty of the rule of law.
     
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    TroM Ancient Guru

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    And Japan wouldn't have been hit with two nukes if it weren't for USA...
    My point is that don't bring up 70 year old things on the table :p
     
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    If it goes against the constitution wouldn't the supreme court just throw it out?
     
  7. Passion Fruit

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    I'd rather take my chances with the Nazi's.

    BTW, Hitler didn't want to invade the UK. He wanted to rule it as a state, so in all honesty, we'd still be speaking English, and probably German as well... And more than likely if the USA hadn't entered the war, you'd of been next. Your argument is moot. Germany had an amazing scientific progress rate and if they were allowed to fully develop their rockets, finish their nuke... no more USA either.

    Anyway, back on topic.
     
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    hey english guy....check with your folks on that one...im sure they were ready for warm beer and schnitzel too eh?
     
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    hey picked the fight we ended it...next?
     
  10. hallryu

    hallryu Don Altobello

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    On topic please folks.
     

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    The Magna Carta is fundamental to the US constitution.


    Absolutely, without the certainty of the rule of law; the rule of law in itself, by definition, becomes meaningless.
     
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    Passion Fruit Ancient Guru

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    I was talking about myself. The thoughts of my parents or anyone else are their own and are irrelevant.
     
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    Habeas corpus out the window too.
     
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    Wow! USA had sinked to a new low.
     
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    Always been happy not to be American or live there.
    No offense intended.
     

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    well not sure about that one ol chap. am glad our lads fought him along with our american brothers and other allies..

    this is an outrageous piece of legislature and all americans should be against this.

    i can perhaps see the point of this law being that in certain very dangerous situations the military might need to arrest someone without any permission in extreme circumstances but surely if someone for example is a known terrorist and is about to blow someone up they can shoot him anyways?

    why would you need this law? ok so we suspect someone..let's grab him because we can and worry if he is innocent after.

    dunno i cant see the point of this law...am all ears if someone can explain.
     
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    Paul L Maha Guru

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  18. TheHunter

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    NWO ring a bell?

    They're trying to shut you up folks, dont let them.


    You all are stronger then those half-dead lechers, with their so called imaginary power from their underworld leader.

    They're the ones who are doomed not us or in this cause you USA folks.
     
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    This is one of the greatest speeches ever made:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njLr9fTyQ2w

    From the movie "The great dictator" from 1940 with Charlie Chaplin.

    It perfectly reflects the times we live in.

    Charlie:you are the best!
     
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  20. Gromuhl'Djun

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    That's pure capitalism. You have the right to free speech, as long as you pay for it.
     
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