AI-Generated Artwork Won First Place at a State Fair Fine Arts Competition

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  1. fantaskarsef

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    With the amount of automatically ai plagiarized "art" with garbled gettyimages logo's in them I think they may be onto something lol.
     
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    You can't be selling your avatar for profit my dude!

    lol...
     
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    the lawsuit claims I'm using it for solicitation purposes...:p

    Please vote for me!...:D

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  6. KissSh0t

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    How interesting that they did this after the lawsuits appeared, not before.

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  7. cucaulay malkin

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    frankly, I'd rather lose to AI than this.

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  8. KissSh0t

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    Bet you likes were inflated using bots........ lol
     
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    Warning: you cannot 'unsee' this image:

    Jensen Pitt
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    Beak-Dancing Jensen:

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    Jensen Pitt (graffiti)
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    I think this is more serious than we all realise people: AI Art, must. be. destroyed.
     
  10. Horus-Anhur

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    So...here is an interesting point for you, if trading bots are AI (in that they train themselves) can the trades they conduct be invalidated?

    It was not a human that conducted the trade, and therefore the trading company that benefited from the trade should be allowed to conduct the trade.

    Think it through, because to allow frequency trading, yet, not allow AI art...seems like a contradiction.
     
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    That has nothing to do with copyright and trademarks.
     
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    Well, that guy stated a lot about 'human interaction' in that, as (in terms of legal definitions) no human being actually made the art - then it cannot be copy-written.

    His words
     
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    Only for copyright laws.
    Other law areas have different rules, including finances.
     
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    Well, I think it still applies 'human interaction' and it could be argued just the same.
     

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    Most economic transactions are already done by computers alone. Including stock trading.
    For legal law, computers and algorithms used, are just tools. And these tools are owned by humans.
     
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    yes...but the trading decisions are automatic and therefore not 'property'
     
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    You can't copyright a stolen image.
     
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    I think that it will be almost impossible to successfully win the lawsuit with the intent of shutting down stable diffusion/midjourney in the united states. And if they do win, the consequences will be severe due to the implications associated with such a precedent

    Pretty much every generated image is transformative, and is not an actual copy, and the data sets created and used are derived from publicly available images to anyone with a web browser, Many images are licensed and they do have copyrights associated but you would have to prove scrapping without the intent to redistribute / sell that exact image is illegal on its own. And if they do somehow manage to successfully find the act of scrapping illegal, the ruling would effect every image search engine negatively.

    You can't really sue for copyright of your style either, but if you did somehow manage to prove your copyright for a style, it would be a horrible precedent for actual artists as well.

    I think the laws on the books are simply insufficient for this situation, on one hand you could say "something" is being stolen , But you can't really define what exactly that is and have it be any different than someone copying your art style, but producing otherwise original works. Would the creators of stable diffusion be responsible or the people making the queries?, I can't think of any situation where the person who makes a machine is responsible and not the people using the machine, without some specific law that makes the device illegal. If you do prove that something is stolen, does that make any and all imitators Illegal?
    I can't see how any judge could make a reasonable judgement on any of these things with the law as it is today.
     
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    Oh, I think any judge would simply kick it up the foodchain until government itself would have to make a law to covers it, because simply: there is no law that currently applies, therefore, it is not illegal.

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