Review: Intel Core i9-13900K

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  1. MonstroMart

    MonstroMart Maha Guru

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    HU did a 12 games with 4090 and the difference between a 13900k and a 7700x is about 5%. A x3d will beat it almost certain.
     
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    AMD will probably announce zen4 x3d at ces so wait for it. Its gonna be a real beast.
     
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    Let me guess, in a useless test suite where even an i3 gets 150fps
     
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    "E-Cores"
     

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    World record for the fastest cpu overclocked on liquid nitrogen has finally fallen to the all mighty 13900k :eek: . Old world record was done on AMD FX-8370 eight years ago by the Stilt.

    Old record was 8722.8Mhz :)

    New world record was done by Elmor / Shamino Asus Rog r/d Team with an Asus Apex Z790 , 13900K and lot's of Ln2.

    New world record is 8812.85Mhz :eek:


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    https://hwbot.org/submission/5102721_elmor_cpu_frequency_core_i9_13900k_8812.85_mhz
     
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  6. 13700KF or 7800X3D.. that is the question.
     
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  7. MonstroMart

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    Definitely too close to take AMD out of the equation. I expected those to smoke AMD in everything that was not rendering considering how meh Zen 4 is but it's within a few % most of the time. I still don't get why AMD did not increase the amount of cores with Zen 4. Clearly the e-cores are working in multi-thread workload and AMD wont be able to keep this amount of cores for long. Also shipping Zen 4 without 3d v-cache was kind of almost pointless. I get it's too expensive for cheaper cpus like dunno a potential 7600 non x or 7400 or 7200 but i feel like moving forward it's hard for gamers to take any non 3d v-cache cpus from AMD seriously. Still only thing AMD has to do is reduce price and voilà. Also the power consumption of this cpu is crazy considering the performance it doesn't look great at all.
     
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    @MonstroMart
    Because the greedy companies want to give us as less as possible every time in order to empty our wallets. Of course the logical step for AMD was the stacking vcache and they know that, but they didn't offer it at this time. I guess blue team also knows that but due to 10nm process they use, can't afford to do it. Using the smart hybrid e-cores they managed to be on par somehow. In addition, don't forget what intel was doing before Zen 3 launch: increased a bit the frequency and voila! New processor :p . They wish they could the same right now :D
     
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  10. Ryu5uzaku

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    So AMD still bit more efficient? Barely loses in games. But still I can smell the competition
     
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  11. Wow that FC6 90W benchmark is ridiculous. The 13900K is 23% faster than 7950X using the same 90W power limit.

    AMD should release the 3D cache variants asap.
     
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    That's real competition, now AMD has to lower prices (specially motherboards and the 7600X).
     
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    Yeah it's kind of crazy how quickly the power consumption goes up on these at the "last mile" so to speak.
     
  14. brogadget

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    Thanks for a great review.
    1. In my eyes very disappointing HEDT performance. Imho a bit of misleading settling a dual channel ram, 20 lane CPU in this domain. AMD still has much more to offer.....
    2. For gamers regarding cost/ performance, certainly best choice is an i5 or i7, have almost same perf. as i9@5.4Ghz. Only i9@5.8Ghz+ TVB is faster, but TVB easily doubles costs compared to i7 and triples costs compared to i5.
    3. For OC, I think, Intel already binned CPUs quiet well, so there will be not much OC headroom without LN2. When already @5.8Ghz+, each additional mV will rocket power consumption and heat through the roof. Let´s wait for LN2 tests and see what happens....
    Edit: btw, same Voltage/ Power "Problem" with Nvidia ADA.... each additional mV skyrockets heat and power consumption, looks like we are already on a very low node and well binned chips. Getting closer to the physical border is pretty sad for OCs.

    2. Edit: TVB = Thermal Velocity Boost
     
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    The results on other sites (notice plural) are showing the Intel chip with far higher power use so am confused how the 13900 can use less on here GN even had it around 300w. Am not an intel fan but this is a good chip for sure, however the difference in performance advantages seems to be mostly in games, and the 5800x3d gives both new Chips from both sides a good run for, I believe this is exactly the moment AMD was waiting for and will stake money on the fact they are sitting on the newer x3d chips until the RDNA3 launch event and will casually drop a few Benchmarks on the table that will just blow all comers into the weeds for games and games related workloads
     

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    5800x3D + X570 crosshair dark hero + 3600mhz ddr4 = 150-200$ more than the z790 hero motherboard alone
    for gamers there's no reason to buy the DDR5 plateforms unless...you have a 4090 that apparently the 5800x3d cannot feed fast enough (just saw this in a 13900k review don't remember which one)

    also I have to add that my "only 2 sticks" problem seems to have come mostly from the 12900k cpu, raptor lake has much more 4 sticks support BUT....stilla t lower speeds than X670, 4800-5200 mostly with a few 5600..4800mhz is a no go it's like running 2133mhz ddr4 nobody does that
     
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  17. TLD LARS

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    The Farcry 6 engine looks to get confused by many cores or atleast not scaling very well, 7600x getting better lows then 7950x and 12400k getting better lows then 12900k.
    The 13900k will win against the 7950x, because in games the 13900k is essentially a 8 core with the thread scheduler, so less confusion for the engine.
    Disabling 8 cores on the 7950x probably boosts performance in Farcry 6.
     
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    Farcry 6 is horrible with all AMD from what I gather. Similar to AoE4.
     
  19. MegaFalloutFan

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    AMD Fanboys In grief :)
    Today is a good day
     
  20. Ryu5uzaku

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    Not sure what grief you are seeing. Intel had a pretty good showing but not a game changer.
     
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