AMD: graphics cards with consumption above 700W TDP before 2025

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Haha very funny, he talks about Nvidia needing 1.2V for high clocks and AMD not needing that. But why then is my 6900XT running at 1.2V out of the box!?o_O
     
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    Id have to check my 6900xt but im pretty sure i hit 2.6ghz on a fair bit less than 1.2v
     
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    It dosent matter if it's nvidia, AMD or Intel gpu. 700 watt is apselutely a no go for me. My rtx 3080 that can go up 400 watt is all ready bad enough and I have undervoltage my card. Deffently worth it. Saves between 50 and 120 watt consumption and gives me more performance pr. Watt. But a bit lower performance at max. But that again depends on again how high gpu clock you want anf how low voltage you go to.

    Not only for the electric bill, but also the pollution. We all ready se now dramatically changes around the world on that part. So 700 watt is apselutely a no go. Also it will be a space heater like no cards before it. Guess that's would be good in cold environments, but hot climates yikes.

    I really don't hope his forecast is going to be true.
     

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    The summertime heat generation alone will keep me from ever considering this new era of simply not giving a crap about efficiency on high end cards. On that front, how are they planning to cool these power hungry beasts? AIO kits on all of them?
     
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    My NV 7800gtx in 2005 was my first WCed card, and ive WCed every one since. Modern cards are still OCable but they are also very UVable, I cant remember the figures off the top of my head but my 6900xt at stock voltage and clocks Vs when OCed and UVed, significant difference performance and temps.
    It will hit 36c this week, i can dial back my clocks a bit, or turn on the aircon, either/or.
     
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    Sure, enthusiasts will water cool them, but not everyone has the skill/inclination to do that. I'm just curious what the out of the box solution will be from the OEMs.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if cards with AIO become way more common, ive no idea but i wonder in what percentage of sales does the buyer find temps the biggest restriction in performance. Central Europe is warm for what 2 months of the year at most, most places that are commonly warm have aircon, would be interestuing to know.
     
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    So they tell us to buy a PS5 Pro or a new XSX instead..
     
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    isn't the current that has a quadratic effect on consumption?
     

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    is not about how i cool it.
    The issue is that if they sell all the card they want to sell and if everyone is gaming 8 hours a day, we are consuming a crap ton of energy for gaming.
    I mean someone of you in the US may hate to hear this, but this stuff should be regulated when is outside meaningful fields ( research, indulstrial applications and so on ).
     
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    Yes it is.
    Here is the full quote from Sam Naffziger

     
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    are they really stupid ?

    1.175v for 2500mhz

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    Yeah, as ive mentioned here i find it game dependant and im not really one for benching as ive been on 60hz/60fps for ages now. However come Friday night il be back from the UK with my new 144hz monitor so il be pushing things a bit more.
     
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    AIB cards usually have greater power consumption, because they want higher clocks.
     
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    Well, I preffer to stay in sub 300W parts myself.
     
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    I guess the customer still has a choice... not buy new cards if that TDP is an issue. At least with Nvidia that's the basic choice you have as it seems.
     
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    Why people from AMD keep mentioning 25x20?! I have no idea if they are trying to tell us if we are dumb or them...
     
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    It's nice to see the lack of people here saying "who cares? Electricity is cheap" and "so what if it uses a lot of power if it has better performance-per-watt?". Seems like they're finally understanding the underlying problems.

    There is hope yet that AMD and Nvidia will take the hint that this is an unreasonable and petty way to achieve top performance. The prices and power draw of GPUs are rapidly killing interest in PC gaming. Miners and scalpers contribute a lot toward this but we can't blame them entirely.
     
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    Be nice if we had more moderate clocks and power consumptions. Time was the highest-end GPU out there (5970) had a power draw of 300 W, WITH TWO GPUS ON THE CARD!!!
     
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