3060ti vs 6700xt a year later

I am with dlss on
I did reduce the settings to see how much difference ultra makes and it's not even noticeable compared to nightmare

dl2 looks like crap without rt

 

not my idea of "better"




I agree that rt sometimes makes no difference. in the games where 6700xt can run with rt on, since they're so washed down. full rtgi+rtao+shadows+reflections at half/full resolution it makes a world of difference.
I wouldn't bother with rt on if it was what it looks like in fc6 and re2. I wouldn't notice it at all.

 

I'm sure next gen 400usd GPU from Nvidia/AMD will be at least 50% faster than 3060Ti/6700XT, and they are coming out in 6-8 months.

Not very smart to invest in a future-proof GPU that get obsoleted in 6-8 months.

 

8GB are not plenty though, performance might die when playing longer. Also, DLSS is broken in DL2, it causes extreme brightness flickering when panning the camera just a few pixels. Devs can screw themselves, no buy for me.
For WD Legion, not even 10GB in 4k with DLSS Quality were enough with RT to avoid severe slow downs.

This card generation just sucks, only 3080 12 GB and 3090 can be considered good cards.

Here, somebody complains he needs to lower texture detail with his 16GB Radeon in Deathloop:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1252330/discussions/0/4536825080742722248/#c4536825080754007492

The game apparently has dumb VRAM allocation management, but the AMD driver seems to make it a much more severe issue. So apparently a 12GB GeForce would fare much better in this game.

Not saying 12GB cards for almost 1k bucks would be a good buy now. Waiting longer and see what happens with new cards might be the only chance not to lose...

 

yeah we're going to need better cards next gen

3060 just lacks power
3060ti is the best option all round but a little too little performance for a 60fps rtx on experience and 8gb vram
3070 has the power but the price is too high, same 8gb limitation
6700xt has good rasterization performance and 12g vram that you're not gonna benefit from at all with raytracing on

4060 with 3070ti performance, 10g vram and 400 pricetag ?

 

Problem is that 4070 is now with updated specs only 10gb card. Thats a serious turn off for me and i was aiming for it.

4060 is a long away and 4080 will probably cost arm and a leg then burn your house down.

 

by leakers with head up their ass
btw 10g would be fine for 1440p rt
you're playing at 3440x1440 with 8g and no crashes or slowdowns to report

 

I do afraid it wont be enough for 1440 uw +rt.

 

With MS directstorage and sampler feedback it will be more than enough.
Imagine Deathloop with 10x the texture streaming speed, can you even tell the difference when high res texture load in within 1-2ms.

 

And where its gonna load? Gpu memory. We could be looking at substantial increase in vram req with directstorage.

 

Well, it's always the games with poor optimization that decide whether equipped VRAM is sufficient or not.

But only a fraction of texture/asset size should be stored persistently in VRAM, that's the point of the feature.
But there is still GPU hardware decoding support missing for DirectStorage, which might be another reason why game devs don't pick up that feature. Also, it's additional efforts required if GPUs without DS need to be supported too.

I really wouldn't buy a card with little of VRAM, just because DS some distant day might improve situation for some games.

 

Yeah DL2 looks great with rt game transforms into the next gen when using it while rt off looks so plain. Still it is the most demanding game i tried. Without dlss it would be unplayable even on the 2080S/3060ti type of cards.

 

Related to the 3060, I agree that is a card that lacks some power for this generation, with a nice VRAM buffer at least. But, with technologies like DLSS, or DSR 2.0, will give a nice boost in performance for a GPU that some times can struggle a little bit on newer games. Even on 1080p, the final image produced is very nice. Yes, is not a card fot Ultra Settings with RT, but as said previously and I agree, in some games I dont find any diferences going from High to Ultra, and RayTracing... still mew excepeting some games.

Other games, if the developers are insterested, can update the game with better technologies and can give better performance, like Forza Horizon 5 and the addition of TAA in this last update.

Or you can play older games like Crysis 2 (original) and finnally crunk up that thing to Very High, tweak the cvars, add some sharpening and HDR and that thing still looks nice and is fun.

PS: Want a game that eats 16GB of VRAM? Crysis 1 with mod Enhaced Edition (not the Remastered) and 4k textures added.

 

Crysis 2 Remastered RT filled up >10GB in 1440p DLSS Balanced, it ran like crap on my brother's 3080 in 4k

 

I wouldn't buy a card with more VRAM than necessary either, it's useless most of the time except for few edge cases. I couldn't figure out what to do with 24GB on my 3090 , forcing games to use all 24GB brought no noticeable improvement to frametime consistency.

If Nvidia sold the 4090Ti with 12GB for the same price as 4090 24GB I will definitely take the 4090Ti, faster core matter 99% of the time.

 

not if I have to pay extra
on 6700xt,at current pricing,you really don't
but the fact is the card is waaaay to weak at ray tracing to ever make use of it
it's like those laptop gpus that useed to sell with 4GB vram with a gpu that barely ran new games

 

With the 6700XT you are definitely paying for the extra VRAM, AMD cannot sell them at lower price due to BOM.
At 480usd it's a bad deal vs 3060Ti at 400usd, which some places are selling the 3060Ti for.

Though 6700XT with 6GB would be a bad idea since AMD is more prone to VRAM management than Nvidia counterpart

 

it makes a lot more sense to buy 6700xt for 4K and not use rt than 1440p if you do want rt
it's got 60% performance of 3090 at 4K but under 40% at 1440p rt, with no option to use upscaling most of the time

 

6700XT got rekt by 3060Ti at 4K though, 6700XT is a 1440p without RT and 1080p with RT card.

1440p DLSS is not only miles better than 1440p FSR2.0, but also there are more DLSS games currently too.

 

lol by 1%
but 3060ti dlss is a better option than 6700xt 4k with how fsr2 stands atm