Toshiba DT02 7200rpm 2TB with 256MB cache and SMR technology

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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  2. Kaarme

    Kaarme Ancient Guru

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    This is like news from more than a decade ago.
     
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    True. Like who would nowadays buy 2TB of shingled HDD storage.
     
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    What next? 4TB thatched spinner?
     

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    April fools came back around?
     
  6. nosirrahx

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    At first I thought this was an ultra cheap 2.5 inch drive for laptops but this is an actual desktop hard drive.

    I am genuinely curious about what the use case is for this drive since it is both huge (physically) and very small (storage).

    Does this exist simply as a replacement for failed 2TB hard drives in ancient equipment?
     
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    Mostly, yes.

    As long as these aren't taking time and manufacturing lines away from larger, useful HDD's, nobody has any real complaint about these drives that has actual merit.
     
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    Slow news day?
     
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    I do upgrade in small steps. Had some drives crashed and could recover sometimes most and sometimes nothing. If i step over to 30GB drives and things go wrong grrrr. Raid is a option but buying more of those drives will hurt my pocket. I would like to save some money for a 5090TI jk.
     
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    Silva Ancient Guru

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    I thought the same, bought an external drive last year, 6TB for 100 something euros. I was confused to why a 2TB HDD is newsworthy.
     
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    This almost looked like a thread bumped up from 10 years ago.
     
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    Dragam1337 Ancient Guru

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    Only reason to get a mechanical drive today is to get a very large amount of non-speed sensitive storage.

    Basically any less than 8tb drives doesn't make sense imo.
     
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    The SMR drives cost less and run as fast or faster than CMR drives with all other equivalencies. The only drawback to SMR drives is they are terrible for RAID striping, I hear. So, if you don't want or need RAID, and you want to save some money and pick up a little performance, SMR fits the bill. SMR got an unjustified bad rep from people who think the only reason to own hard drives is to do RAID with them. I'm pretty sure likely 99% of people buying hard drives today don't do RAID anymore. If they do, then CMR is there for them. Big complaint came when the drive makers didn't bother telling people what was SMR vs CMR, and people doing arrays were buying SMR drives, which was a completely understandable complaint. I think that's been rectified now, though. I guess they didn't think the consumer markets did RAID much if at all anymore.
     
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    My vague theory is: SMR drives and printers are cousins. It would explain so much ... :p
     
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    The only news here is that they can fit same amount of storage into fewer actual metal platters inside the drive... so it costs the manufacturer less (less metal simpler read heads). But if they sell them for same price it makes no difference to buyers, just more $$$ for makers.
     

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    It's not just RAID they're useless for they also have slower write speeds vs equivalent CMR hdds aswell
     
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    They write faster than CMR drivers would do initially because the reserved zone is placed towards the front of the drive where things are fastest,

    its when this zone spills or an operation to move the data to a shingled region is underway that writes tank.
     
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    SMR with TrueNAS ZFS for example is a big no no.

    I avoid all SMR drives like the plague....
     
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